didn't take long

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes the plan is to make sure that book is in every school
You believe that?
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i want to know how you concluded that from what i said.

i’m not worried it’s going to be in every school. but it doesn’t belong in any school:

you criticized parents who didn’t want that crap in their school. Meaning, you think it’s ok for kids to stare at that when they could be learning algebra or chemistry.

i’m comfortable with my side in this one. you’re going off the deep
end, as usual responding to things that i never even came close to saying.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i want to know how you concluded that from what i said.

i’m not worried it’s going to be in every school. but it doesn’t belong in any school:

you criticized parents who didn’t want that crap in their school. Meaning, you think it’s ok for kids to stare at that when they could be learning algebra or chemistry.

i’m comfortable with my side in this one. you’re going off the deep
end, as usual responding to things that i never even came close to saying.
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Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

They called it leadership when it’s just playing to the Mob

These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants
! If that’s what their constituents want !

All the pieces are in place , They just need Trump back in office.

Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want and He’s the key
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

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Please explain how a governor benefits from gerrymandering. A governor wins a statewide election. Do you know what "statewide" means?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

They called it leadership when it’s just playing to the Mob

These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants
! If that’s what their constituents want !

All the pieces are in place , They just need Trump back in office.

Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want and He’s the key
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"These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants "

Who is saying they want camps?

"They just need Trump back in office. Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want"

What, exactly, did Trump destroy during his term at the behest of the right wing mob?

Wayne, are liberals more tolerant of differing opinions? What happens to Christian bakers who would rather not participate in a gay wedding for religious reasons? Does the left say "we respect your right to religious freedom"? Or does the left try to force them out of business?

Conservative speakers are regularly hounded from college campuses. Does it ever happen to liberal speakers?

Plenty of close-mindedness on your side too. But you'll never, ever admit it, despite endless video evidence.

The left describes everyone not on the left, as a hatemonger. Hilarys deplorable a speech was the single greatest example of liberal
tolerance and willingness to embrace differing ideas. In November, we'll see how America feels about that. Trumps not on the ballot in november, neither is january 6. it’s a referendum on biden’s first two years, and unless something changes ( which it easily can), it’s going to be a disaster for democrats.

Won’t be a permanent disaster, if the gop takes control they’ll screw it all up too, and the pendulum will
swing back.

But it’s shaping up to be a real shellacking. i’m sure you don’t see it that way.

And the vast majority of america doesn’t watch fox. they are coming to these conclusions on their own. They see how rapidly things have deteriorated since Pudding Brain took office. Ever since rhe Afghanistan withdrawal, it’s been one disaster after another, except for the stock market and jobs.

america knows Putin didn’t cause the overall inflation. they know biden’s lying.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants "

Who is saying they want camps?

"They just need Trump back in office. Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want"

What, exactly, did Trump destroy during his term at the behest of the right wing mob?

Wayne, are liberals more tolerant of differing opinions? What happens to Christian bakers who would rather not participate in a gay wedding for religious reasons? Does the left say "we respect your right to religious freedom"? Or does the left try to force them out of business?

Conservative speakers are regularly hounded from college campuses. Does it ever happen to liberal speakers?

Plenty of close-mindedness on your side too. But you'll never, ever admit it, despite endless video evidence.

The left describes everyone not on the left, as a hatemonger. Hilarys deplorable a speech was the single greatest example of liberal
tolerance and willingness to embrace differing ideas. In November, we'll see how America feels about that. Trumps not on the ballot in november, neither is january 6. it’s a referendum on biden’s first two years, and unless something changes ( which it easily can), it’s going to be a disaster for democrats.

Won’t be a permanent disaster, if the gop takes control they’ll screw it all up too, and the pendulum will
swing back.

But it’s shaping up to be a real shellacking. i’m sure you don’t see it that way.

And the vast majority of america doesn’t watch fox. they are coming to these conclusions on their own. They see how rapidly things have deteriorated since Pudding Brain took office. Ever since rhe Afghanistan withdrawal, it’s been one disaster after another, except for the stock market and jobs.

america knows Putin didn’t cause the overall inflation. Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie they know biden’s lying.

Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions and to gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth by allowing lawsuits to be filed against anyone who helps them.

But now there's a new twist in what appears to be a broader Republican strategy: Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines.

Like I said camps are not and impossibility

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions and to gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth by allowing lawsuits to be filed against anyone who helps them.

But now there's a new twist in what appears to be a broader Republican strategy: Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines.

Like I said camps are not and impossibility

"Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie"

Oh, it's a Republican lie that Biden is blaming Putin for inflation?

Here, all the Republicans at NBC support my claim that Biden is telling this lie...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...as-ncna1291691

"Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions "

And if people didn't want that, they'd elect liberals instead of conservatives. That's how democracy works, Wayne. You don't get what you want every single time. Why is it such a shock to you, still, that not everyone is exactly like you?

"Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines."

Not sure what you mean, can you share a link?

"Like I said camps are not and impossibility"

No, that's not what you said. You said Republicans want camps. You lied.

I think my view on the sexual stuff is what most republicans share. I think people can, and should, do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else. People's sexual preferences are absolutely none of my business. But I'd like it if we kept that to ourselves, don't shove it in my face at every turn. I don't want to have to see a gay pride parade any more than I want to see a parade of Chippendales dancers or Hooters waitresses. And don't tell a baker he must participate in a gay wedding if it violates his religious beliefs. Do whatever males you happy, but please leave me out of it. I don't shove my sexuality in anyone else's face, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy.

And no sexuality, whether it be heterosexuality or any other kind, needs to be in an elementary school. Let kids be kids for the brief time they are kids.

None of that is hateful, no matter how you try to spin it. I was in favor of gay marriage when Hilary and Obama were adamantly opposed.

Liberals would do well to grasp that tolerance is a two-way street. Liberals think "tolerance" means everyone has to tolerate them, but they aren't always willing to show it to others.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie"

Oh, it's a Republican lie that Biden is blaming Putin for inflation?

Here, all the Republicans at NBC support my claim that Biden is telling this lie...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...as-ncna1291691

"Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions "

And if people didn't want that, they'd elect liberals instead of conservatives. That's how democracy works, Wayne. You don't get what you want every single time. Why is it such a shock to you, still, that not everyone is exactly like you?

"Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines."

Not sure what you mean, can you share a link?

"Like I said camps are not and impossibility"

No, that's not what you said. You said Republicans want camps. You lied.

I think my view on the sexual stuff is what most republicans share. I think people can, and should, do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else. People's sexual preferences are absolutely none of my business. But I'd like it if we kept that to ourselves, don't shove it in my face at every turn. I don't want to have to see a gay pride parade any more than I want to see a parade of Chippendales dancers or Hooters waitresses. And don't tell a baker he must participate in a gay wedding if it violates his religious beliefs. Do whatever males you happy, but please leave me out of it. I don't shove my sexuality in anyone else's face, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy.

And no sexuality, whether it be heterosexuality or any other kind, needs to be in an elementary school. Let kids be kids for the brief time they are kids.

None of that is hateful, no matter how you try to spin it. I was in favor of gay marriage when Hilary and Obama were adamantly opposed.

Liberals would do well to grasp that tolerance is a two-way street. Liberals think "tolerance" means everyone has to tolerate them, but they aren't always willing to show it to others.

So in a nut shell you support these Republicans who wish to criminalize what people do outside their states

If these actions are so supported as you suggest why are they never on the ballot in theses states ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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"every public school in the USA has LOCAL control."

(1) wrong. Every public school in the USA has state and federal guidelines that they must abide by. I'm fine with less federal/state control, and more local control. I taught in CT, and there were ALL KINDS of state and federal rules that dictated some of what we had to do. There's nothing remotely new about state or federal intrusion.

(2) You're saying you're a proponent of local control, yet when local parents show up at local school board meetings to express local concerns, you dismiss them as crackpots. So you're kind of all over the place.

"once again, playing your victim card"

Again, not sure how you could conclude that. I'm saying you're demonstrably, laughably wrong if you think that Republicans are inventing the idea of state control.

With masks, Desantis wanted control to be at the most local level - the individual. Desantis didn't forbid anyone wearing masks in school. He forbid towns from forcing people to wear them. That's a big, big difference.

As to teaching sexuality to elementary school kids, I don't like it, but if a town wants to do it, I think they should be allowed to do it. If parents don't like it, they can elect a new school board. I think states and the feds should but out. But if you think Democrats want to leave education to local boards, you're wrong.

Pete, you just can't handle it when anyone isn't on 100% board with pure, unchecked liberalism, on any single issue. Which is why you may well need to check into rehab after the midterms.