Current headline on Yahoo - Why Florida Has Americas Lowest Covid Rate

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim you do understand if you took no action or mitigation….

But that’s not what you have , You’re claiming doing nothing had the same outcome ?

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They didn’t “do nothing” in Florida

“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

The governor said he’s been urging people to get vaccinated for months because of what he called the “summer season”.

“We have a summer season here, just like last year,” DeSantis said. “It started a little later this year. So you’re going to have higher prevalence for the rest of July, probably into August. And then it goes back and goes the different waves. If you’re vaccinated, those waves are not going to impact you in any significant way and I think that’s the important message for people.”

Gov. DeSantis praised Florida’s vaccine rollout and its choice to prioritize seniors getting the shot first, and acknowledged the slower uptake of the vaccine among younger Floridians. He also reiterated that he thought it was a mistake for the Food and Drug Administration to pause use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after a few women experienced blood clots. Florida followed the FDA and Centers for Disease Control recommendation at the time and paused the vaccine.

“I think that, that sent a message that maybe this is not something that they should be doing. I think that’s been unfortunate because I took it, I think it’s effective,” he said.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

They didn’t “do nothing” in Florida

“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

The governor said he’s been urging people to get vaccinated for months because of what he called the “summer season”.

“We have a summer season here, just like last year,” DeSantis said. “It started a little later this year. So you’re going to have higher prevalence for the rest of July, probably into August. And then it goes back and goes the different waves. If you’re vaccinated, those waves are not going to impact you in any significant way and I think that’s the important message for people.”

Gov. DeSantis praised Florida’s vaccine rollout and its choice to prioritize seniors getting the shot first, and acknowledged the slower uptake of the vaccine among younger Floridians. He also reiterated that he thought it was a mistake for the Food and Drug Administration to pause use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after a few women experienced blood clots. Florida followed the FDA and Centers for Disease Control recommendation at the time and paused the vaccine.

“I think that, that sent a message that maybe this is not something that they should be doing. I think that’s been unfortunate because I took it, I think it’s effective,” he said.
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once again, as always, he cannot respond to what was said and done, so he responds to some crazy radical thing ( FL did “nothing”) that’s easier for him to respond to. The fact that it’s not even close to what transpired, somehow doesn’t matter to him.

“Oh so you’re saying the state should just execute all of the senior citizens up front to spew them the suffering of covid, and then sell
their organs on ebay.”.

it’s that stupid.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s that stupid.

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I bet they are shocked that DeSantis is vaccinated...

he's apparently "pro-anti-vaccination" or something....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I bet they are shocked that DeSantis is vaccinated...

he's apparently "pro-anti-vaccination" or something....

correct. the same desantis who enlisted the help of the Publix chain of stores to help get more people quickly vaccinated, and then they attacked him for that because publix had donated to his campaign, so the lefty media said he was just rewarding a donor.

everything he does, no matter what it is, must be wrong. they are incapable of admitting he’s doing anything well. because liberalism can never, ever be wrong, under any circumstances. they don’t merely “believe” in liberalism. they are, quite literally, enslaved by it. that’s the cult. look at the way they behave when conservatives actually beat liberals at something, which i hate to break it to them, does occasionally happen. they cannot be rational.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

correct. . look at the way they behave when conservatives actually beat liberals at something,
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Every once in a while the True Jim slips out… but we have all understood it’s allways been-about owing the libs. Or red state blue state …

So by what standards do you claim victory

Because here’s a list of the top 15 highest death rates per 100k as OCT 26
Mississippi
Alabama
NJ
Louisiana
NY
AZ
MA republican governor
Arkansas
Fla. Ron’s state
RI
Georgia
Oklahoma
SC
SD
Indiana

So based this out of the top 15 states with the highest death rates per 100k 11 RED 4 are. BLUE

So if I use your play ground logic on winning and losing in the real world
Red states lost




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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Every once in a while the True Jim slips out… but we have all understood it’s allways been-about owing the libs. Or red state blue state …

So by what standards do you claim victory

Because here’s a list of the top 15 highest death rates per 100k as OCT 26
Mississippi
Alabama
NJ
Louisiana
NY
AZ
MA republican governor
Arkansas
Fla. Ron’s state
RI
Georgia
Oklahoma
SC
SD
Indiana

So based this out of the top 15 states with the highest death rates per 100k 11 RED 4 are. BLUE

So if I use your play ground logic on winning and losing in the real world
Red states lost




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as always, you’re responding to something i never said. i never, ever said that republicans all handled covid better than all democrats. so i just don’t know who, or what, you’re responding to.

FL has a huge number of seniors, so it’s a bit messy just comparing florida’s death rates to other states who don’t have nearly as many seniors. but even if we just do that, maybe there’s something to be said about having florida’s death rates but have businesses open and kids in school and people
living their lives, rather than implementing brutal lockdowns and improving your death rate a little?

the fact ( and it’s a fact) that massive numbers of people are moving there, tells
me that americans think he’s doing ok.

tell me, why did you all post his weekly numbers when they were awful, and stop posting his weekly. umbers when they were great?

obviously it’s because this isn’t about truth, it’s about doing whatever it takes to make him look bad.

that’s the difference between us. if his death rates were the worst in the country, i’d say he blew it and should step down. but if his death rates were the best in the country, none of you would give him any credit.


let’s see where FLs death rates are in spring, because in the winter people in FL are outside, and people
i. new england are inside. maybe that helps FL. maybe not.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

as always, you’re responding to something i never said. i never, ever said that republicans all handled covid better than all democrats.
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Conservatives actually beat liberals at something,

Your words not mine

I was responding to the logic in that statement alone

Nothing more
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

as always, you’re responding to something i never said. i never, ever said that republicans all handled covid better than all democrats. so i just don’t know who, or what, you’re responding to.

FL has a huge number of seniors, so it’s a bit messy just comparing florida’s death rates to other states who don’t have nearly as many seniors. but even if we just do that, maybe there’s something to be said about having florida’s death rates but have businesses open and kids in school and people
living their lives, rather than implementing brutal lockdowns and improving your death rate a little?

the fact ( and it’s a fact) that massive numbers of people are moving there, tells
me that americans think he’s doing ok.

tell me, why did you all post his weekly numbers when they were awful, and stop posting his weekly. umbers when they were great?

obviously it’s because this isn’t about truth, it’s about doing whatever it takes to make him look bad.

that’s the difference between us. if his death rates were the worst in the country, i’d say he blew it and should step down. but if his death rates were the best in the country, none of you would give him any credit.


let’s see where FLs death rates are in spring, because in the winter people in FL are outside, and people
i. new england are inside. maybe that helps FL. maybe not.
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Nothing messy at all other than the 40 Thousand dead people in Florida who would disagree with you, if they could. That's the difference between Florida and Vermont or Maine's death rate.

Compare Florida to Vermont then for how many seniors there are,

Rank State Population Ages 65+ (percent)
1 Maine 20.6
2 Florida 20.5
3 West Virginia 19.9
4 Vermont 19.4

Maine and Vermont both are among the lowest while West Virginia is pretty squarely in the middle of number of infections and deaths for all time.
Florida makes the top 10 for deaths and cases