Schiff lost his marbles

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Zelensky's satements are facts. Your "interpretation" is conjecture.

Executive privilege only works for certain people and things, it cannot be a protective blanket over all actions that the office wants to conceal, and as with other legal veils, once pierced it is moot and in any case cannot be used to conceal a crime.

[scottw]

I'm really concerned that we won't be able to fight the coming Russian invasion while at the same time fighting the ground war that trump started with iran a couple of weeks while at the same time preventing the takeover of Virginia by white supremacists and nazis

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm really concerned that we won't be able to fight the coming Russian invasion while at the same time fighting the ground war that trump started with iran a couple of weeks while at the same time preventing the takeover of Virginia by white supremacists and nazis

meanwhile we’re all broke because the GOP tax cuts gave everything to the Koch brothers. Grim times, indeed.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

meanwhile we’re all broke because the GOP tax cuts gave everything to the Koch brothers. Grim times, indeed.
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With the way Trump is running up the debt, the country will be broke. But hey it is a Repub. admin. so who cares.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

With the way Trump is running up the debt, the country will be broke. But hey it is a Repub. admin. so who cares.

Uggghh . . . I know it has already been mentioned a few times, but . . . Congress is in charge of the debt. Just sayin.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Uggghh . . . I know it has already been mentioned a few times, but . . . Congress is in charge of the debt. Just sayin.

Fortunately (or unfortunately) it is the President who it usually is attributed to.

Trump did have a small part in lowering taxes which is reflected in the deficit.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Fortunately (or unfortunately) it is the President who it usually is attributed to.

Trump did have a small part in lowering taxes which is reflected in the deficit.

Federal government revenues have gone up in spite of the tax cuts. Tax cuts were part of the total equation. They helped to greatly expand the whole economy, which resulted in greater government revenues. Can't believe that we constantly have to point this stuff out.

So, if revenues have gone up, it's Congress's duty to wisely spend, and it is its profligacy, not the tax cuts, that is the reason that the debt keeps rising.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by PaulS

With the way Trump is running up the debt, the country will be broke. But hey it is a Repub. admin. so who cares.

Republicans of old did have concerns about debt.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Republicans of old did have concerns about debt.

Could be a dying breed those pols of either party who had such "concerns."

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Executive privilege only works for certain people and things, it cannot be a protective blanket over all actions that the office wants to conceal, and as with other legal veils, once pierced it is moot and in any case cannot be used to conceal a crime.

It ain't been pierced and no crime has been established. I believe the Court would have to decide, not you.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

It ain't been pierced and no crime has been established. I believe the Court would have to decide, not you.

Conjecture, obviously.

Just remember, Democrats don't know what the withheld documents say. Maybe they say it was a perfect call or there was no quid pro quo. But if you care about the truth, you'd want the documents released.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Conjecture, obviously.

Just remember, Democrats don't know what the withheld documents say. Maybe they say it was a perfect call or there was no quid pro quo. But if you care about the truth, you'd want the documents released.

Maybe the truth has already been exposed. No need to keep beating a dead horse. Ahhhh . . . the maybe trail really has no end other than just stopping.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Maybe the truth has already been exposed. No need to keep beating a dead horse. Ahhhh . . . the maybe trail really has no end other than just stopping.

Floridaman's modus operandi has always been lawyer up, deny and lie. Just like he learned from Roy Cohn. That's not all he and Epstein learned from Cohn, but that is another sordid story.

That's how you get involved in 3500 lawsuits, not counting arbitration and need everyone to sign NDA's.

I have no reason to believe he has found a new way since he became Master of the Trumplicans and the evangelical's false idol.

He would like his Trumplicans to believe that anyone that contradicts his propaganda is dead to him, just look at what happened to Gaetz.
Though that one smells like a false flag op to me.

This is far from dead.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Floridaman's modus operandi has always been lawyer up, deny and lie. Just like he learned from Roy Cohn. That's not all he and Epstein learned from Cohn, but that is another sordid story.

That's how you get involved in 3500 lawsuits, not counting arbitration and need everyone to sign NDA's.

I have no reason to believe he has found a new way since he became Master of the Trumplicans and the evangelical's false idol.

He would like his Trumplicans to believe that anyone that contradicts his propaganda is dead to him, just look at what happened to Gaetz.
Though that one smells like a false flag op to me.

This is far from dead.

When those dead bodies have arisen as current actual manifestations rather than apparitions of your fevered and twisted past infested mind, then I might be convinced that they are not dead.

But I admit, as long as you anti-Trumpers keep the stories and conjectures on life support, they do have the semblance of a horrific living dead.