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Old 01-23-2020, 11:20 AM   #7
detbuch
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The underlying charge is that the president broke the law and abused the power of the office that put him in the position to do so.

"Abuse" of power is, in itself, too vague a concept to be considered a crime and is subject to opposing opinion. All Presidents could have been accused of abuse of power, but the "abuse" would have to be specified as a crime before it could be considered impeachable. The actual action that is supposed to be an abuse is what must be considered.

That law was the congressionally approved funding which was to be sent to an ally to help an ongoing ground war with an invading country the US is not friendly with.

That law had a date by which it had to be fulfilled. The money was sent before that date. The money was sent, and Ukraine didn't have to do anything extra to get it. Ukraine's President has said more than once that there was no pressure or no bribe or any quid pro quo to get the money. Those are all facts.

There has been a mountain of evidence and testimony that shows that there were people who were aware of this and helped cover it up.

He doesn’t just believe in it, it’s fact.
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No, there are not mountains of proven evidence of an actual crime. There is the proven fact that the money was delivered within the specified time frame and that Zelinsky said all was legal and he was not pressured or bribed.
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