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		 Must be a slow year in the Peace Department. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 its Bush's fault. 
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		I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........   
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-14-2015, 05:12 AM
			
			
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		 Who cares. 
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		 I actually read that they're considering changing the name to the Obama Peace Prize and are going to give Barak the first one. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 As opposed to the Chenny death prize 
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		 By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage. 
 
Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-14-2015, 11:49 AM
			
			
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				By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage. 
 
Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm. 
			
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 Are you talking about "peace" ?  
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		 I can't believe nobody has remarked the peace prize story from the OP is fake. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........   
			
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			09-15-2015, 10:49 AM
			
			
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				Are you talking about "peace" ?  
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 Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
 
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam. 
 
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			09-15-2015, 11:19 AM
			
			
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				Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s. 
			
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				Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s. 
 
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.  
 
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 Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders. 
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				But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?  
 
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 You silly goose. The US, both Dem and Rep parties, responsibly worked together for decades to balance and contain the global brushfires. The reason there were no Mega-Trends is that they were mostly held in check. The biggest destabilizer from the 40s to the 80s, was who? Your socialist workers paradise comrades. Who kept them (mostly) in check? More sensible people from the USA. Yes it was fustercluck but was generally a workable fustercluck.
 
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				Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders. 
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 I am better off financially but that be about it. The world and the USA is less stable now than it was a decade ago.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-16-2015, 05:44 AM
			
			
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				That is like asking who the tree hugging teacher supports 
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Isn't he the one who said"Stand up Chuck,let em see ya"?
  
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				But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?  
 
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 Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan.  It was called The Surge.  It was an astonishing, spectacular, success.  Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.
 
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				So your synopsis is wrong.  The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria. 
			
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 The Surge undoubtedly worked in the short-term.  Do you feel the military could have sustained that level of effort there, and for how long?  Would that make Iraq any more stable? Add to that sending ground-forces en masse to Libya and Syria?  You certainly had your Neo-Con Wheaties this morning!  
		
		
		
		
		
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				Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan.  It was called The Surge.  It was an astonishing, spectacular, success.  Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited. 
 
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 I mean strategically they had no plan beyond removing Saddam. Not for Iraq or for the region.
 
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