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09-13-2015, 07:49 PM
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its Bush's fault.
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09-13-2015, 08:09 PM
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I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........  |
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09-14-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?......... |
I Do.....ugh....I'm officially old.
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09-15-2015, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Are you talking about "peace" ?
You smoking crack today john?
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Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.
No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s. |
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09-15-2015, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
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But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?
A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn. |
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09-17-2015, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?
A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.
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Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria. |
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09-17-2015, 01:26 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.
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The Surge undoubtedly worked in the short-term. Do you feel the military could have sustained that level of effort there, and for how long? Would that make Iraq any more stable? Add to that sending ground-forces en masse to Libya and Syria? You certainly had your Neo-Con Wheaties this morning! |
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-17-2015, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.
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I mean strategically they had no plan beyond removing Saddam. Not for Iraq or for the region.
The Surge was a tactic, it was a response to the situation at a point in time. |
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09-15-2015, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.
The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.
No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s.
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It's Bush's fault
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09-13-2015, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
its Bush's fault.
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LOL Nebe, I never get tired of that post of yours. |
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