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Old 05-19-2013, 06:35 AM   #1
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The woman who is an absolute charge I believe her name is Sarah Ingram, has been promoted to be in charge of the Obamacare division of the IRS. While in charge of nonprofits at the IRS she received an average of $35,000 a year bonuses....bonuses that could only be approved by the Pres.
She will now be in charge of approving health care decisions.
Thank God none of this was politically motivated
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:06 AM   #2
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The woman who is an absolute charge I believe her name is Sarah Ingram, has been promoted to be in charge of the Obamacare division of the IRS. While in charge of nonprofits at the IRS she received an average of $35,000 a year bonuses....bonuses that could only be approved by the Pres.
She will now be in charge of approving health care decisions.
Thank God none of this was politically motivated
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Obamacare is such a mess before it starts, and now the fox is going to guard
the hen house.
Time to defund it. Take care of the 10% who don't have healthcare with a special
program and leave the other 90% to what they have. Then go to a fair or flat tax.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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The woman who is an absolute charge I believe her name is Sarah Ingram, has been promoted to be in charge of the Obamacare division of the IRS. While in charge of nonprofits at the IRS she received an average of $35,000 a year bonuses....bonuses that could only be approved by the Pres.
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I'm not sure that's true. My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS for obvious reasons. Most government bonuses are automatic (rather than discretionary). There is a special award bonus program that the President does sign, but the recipients are nominated by their leadership up through the ranks...given her pay and the bonus numbers thrown out it doesn't sound like she was awarded a special bonus.

The formula here is becoming pretty clear. Assume the "scandal" then toss out bits of information accurate or not regardless of context to further the story.

That's not how you investigate, it's how you confuse.

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:02 AM   #4
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I'm not sure that's true. My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS for obvious reasons. Most government bonuses are automatic (rather than discretionary). There is a special award bonus program that the President does sign, but the recipients are nominated by their leadership up through the ranks...given her pay and the bonus numbers thrown out it doesn't sound like she was awarded a special bonus.



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What is the criteria for getting a taxpayer paid special awards bonus for your Govt. job?
Govt. workers are already paid for their work, get benefits, get retirement
after 25 years service and can't get fired except for wrong doing.

Pray tell, if as you say," the White House has little influence over the IRS", who does????

Simple questions that need simple answers.

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:22 AM   #5
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I'm not sure that's true. My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS for obvious reasons. Most government bonuses are automatic (rather than discretionary). There is a special award bonus program that the President does sign, but the recipients are nominated by their leadership up through the ranks...given her pay and the bonus numbers thrown out it doesn't sound like she was awarded a special bonus.

The formula here is becoming pretty clear. Assume the "scandal" then toss out bits of information accurate or not regardless of context to further the story.

That's not how you investigate, it's how you confuse.

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"My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS "

At a minimum, the White House selects the Treasury Secretary who oversees the IRS. In this case, Obama selected a tax dodger, but we can save that for later...

"Most government bonuses are automatic "

That's a problem, then...

"The formula here is becoming pretty clear. Assume the "scandal" then toss out bits of information accurate or not regardless of context to further the story."

Of course, there are Obama-bashers who will exaggerate or fabricate. The flip side of that coin is you, who will go to any length to deny any criticism, valid or not, be directed at Obama. You have to admit, you're a heck of a cheerleader for the guy, Johnny Carson didn't have so loyal an ally in Ed McMahon. You're like Dwight Schrute to Michael Scott on 'The Office'.

Spence, Obama has a demonstrable history of being less than tolerant to those on my side (Republicans should sit in the back of the bus, we cling to guns and religion because we are bitter and racist, liberals should punish their enemies, Romney is suffering from 'Romnesia' - haw-haw!!). Can you deny that with a straight face? This IRS thing, while there is no direct evidence to Obama, is awfully consistent with the cutlure Obama has brought with his administration...it's an obvious, demonstrable culture of intolerance towards conservatives.
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As the onion peels.
Reported in the NY times --the White House Council knew about the
IRS targeting in April.

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As the onion peels.
Reported in the NY times --the White House Council knew about the
IRS targeting in April.
Correct.

And Obama told us he didn't know about this issue until he saw it on the news very recently.

So, (1) either the White House Counsel didn't think this was worth mentioning to his only client, or (2) Obama lied about when/how he found out about this.
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The quiet is deafening in here.

Either the fishing is good or the Lib defense has dried up. .

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The quiet is deafening in here.

Either the fishing is good or the Lib defense has dried up. .
Truths coming out. Couple more whistleblowers on Benghazi too.

I'm not an attorney, but I don't believe you can deny guilt and then plead the fifth. I would've kept her on stand, asked a million questions and made her plead the fifth to each and everyone of them.
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