Romney is funny

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Bush wasn't inspiring hope in 2004 and yet he won. People don't vote for the best choice, they vote for the least worst choice.

-spence

when you are doing a decent job, inspiring hope isn't essential to getting re-elected....

when you are doing a lousy job...well...you say stuff like this

AP Interview: Obama Says Romney Holds "Extreme" Views | RealClearPolitics

this election will be about changing vectors....we know where the current vector is taking us and consistently 60% don't like the current vector RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country
....which means that the guy resposible for the current vector in large part is going to have to convince most of the country that it makes sense to continue on, despite the lack of any substantial improvement now or on the horizon for the important indicators, or he's going to have to convince a majority that the vector proposed by his opponent will be worse...that'll be a tough sell, particularly if the current economic/employment vector continues to slide...


http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/106512...four-years-ago
You Are Probably Worse Off Than You Were Four Years Ago

All told, this is a stunningly bad economic record for an incumbent president to run on. The fact that Obama’s still the favorite testifies to how uniquely terrible the Romney-Ryan ticket is, and perhaps also to how much blame extremist congressional Republicans deserve for consistently blocking nearly every plausible avenue to economic recovery. Still, there’s no avoiding the fact that the economy has worsened over four years for the typical American household, even as it has improved for the one percent. Thank goodness Mitt Romney is about the last person on earth who would ever want to point that discrepancy out.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

when you are doing a decent job, inspiring hope isn't essential to getting re-elected....

when you are doing a lousy job...well...you say stuff like this

AP Interview: Obama Says Romney Holds "Extreme" Views | RealClearPolitics

Actually Obama appears quite lucid in that article. He's also exactly right, on big issues like abortion, immigration, health care etc... the GOP platform has taken a hard right stance which compared to Romney's history is quite a radical shift.

this election will be about changing vectors....we know where the current vector is taking us and consistently 60% don't like the current vector RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country
....which means that the guy resposible for the current vector in large part is going to have to convince most of the country that it makes sense to continue on, despite the lack of any substantial improvement now or on the horizon for the important indicators, or he's going to have to convince a majority that the vector proposed by his opponent will be worse...that'll be a tough sell, particularly if the current economic/employment vector continues to slide...

I don't believe people assign the current vector to Obama, they're smart enough to understand the issues that face the country are much, much larger than the past 3+ years.

I also don't believe most people think the country needs a big ideological shift but rather just basic governmental responsibility. This is independent of party...

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually Obama appears quite lucid in that article. yeah, "small" is the word I would use He's also exactly right, on big issues like abortion, immigration, health care etc... the GOP platform has taken a hard right stance which compared to Romney's history is quite a radical shift. where has the GOP platform shifted radically or otherwise on these BIG issues?


I don't believe people assign the current vector to Obama .....some applaud and some disdain the better living through more encompassing government vector...he is the assignee , they're smart enough to understand the issues that face the country are much, much larger than the past 3+ years. you (and Zimmy) can't seem to decide whether they're smart enough or not smart enough, either way another gross generalization

I also don't believe most people think the country needs a big ideological shift but rather just basic governmental responsibility. This is independent of party...if most people(reference the RCP poll) feel the country is headed in the wrong direction consistently over a long period, that might indicate the desire for a big idealogical shift which is actually not a shift but a return to our founding ideals and principles in response to the BIG idealogical shift currently being forced on us...most people can't help it, it's ingrained in us as Americans...at least "most people"

-spence

tossing around the "extreme" card is a little silly and desperate sounding...it's been grossly overused

[likwid]

Originally Posted by scottw

tossing around the "extreme" card is a little silly and desperate sounding...it's been grossly overused

Then stop using it.

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[scottw]

Originally Posted by likwid

Then stop using it.

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you probably should have done a bit more investigation before posting that...

these are great examples of where extreme has appeared in my posts, can't promise I haven't used in the context I mentioned ("extreme" card) myself but ...truly apples and oranges as Spence would say

thanks to an extreme negative phase of the Arctic Oscillation

economic slumps by use of extreme monetary stimulus

“I am a socialist. I live to the extreme left, the extreme left of you mere liberals,” O'Donnell said:

Instead, privileged, wealthy, white Democrats attacked Brown as an "extreme right-wing" judge who didn't care about "civil rights" or the "down-trodden." They were unconstrained by accusations of racism and sexism.

Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) ridiculed Bush nominees including Brown, as "Neanderthals." He attacked Brown as "another extreme right-wing candidate ... a judicial activist who will roll back basic rights."

Sen. #^&#^&#^&#^& Durbin (D-Ill.) said: "Janice Rogers Brown is one of President Bush's most ideological and extreme judicial nominees."


but at least you got a self satisfied chuckle

oh, this is a good one where I quoted Spence

Originally Posted by spence
Any good engineer knows you make something better by taking it to the extreme to see where it breaks

and quoting the one and only Zimmy

Originally Posted by zimmy
and extreme eastern Montana

[likwid]

Originally Posted by scottw

you probably should have done a bit more investigation before posting that...

these are great examples of where extreme has appeared in my posts, can't promise I haven't used in the context I mentioned ("extreme" card) myself but ...truly apples and oranges as Spence would say

boring wall of text proving scottw doesn't fish

go fishing.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by likwid

go fishing.

I accept your apology...fishing was great this weekend, got my neighbor and his boy out on their yak alongside one of my daughters and I for a great morning Sunday, they're addicted now, fun to see....Saturday morning produced bigger fish though......one of the twins is already got me scheduled to fish this afternoon..... so I guess I appreciate your advice but I've got that covered

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

He's also exactly right, on big issues like abortion, immigration, health care etc the GOP platform has taken a hard right stance which compared to Romney's history is quite a radical shift.


spence

not exactly....


"The 2012 platform adopted the identical pro-life language that has been in the platform since the late Rep. Henry Hyde inserted it in 1984 in Dallas."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...form-best-yet/


"The platform sections on immigration are examples of how closely social and fiscal issues and costs are intertwined. It is in favor of the rule of law, against any kind of amnesty, and supports requiring employers to use e-Verify to make sure their employees are legally in the United States. It also takes a strong stand for approving photo IDs before allowing someone to vote."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...discrimination
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...t_work_permits
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._control_first
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...mmigration_law


"the platform calls for repealing Obamacare"
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law\

"Most voters still support repeal of President Obama’s national health care law "


what was he "exactly right" about Spence?
what and where "exacty" is this "radical shift" and/or "hard right stance" in the GOP Platform ?
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...same_of_romney
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...or_wrong_track