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Old 01-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #1
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when I look at the list and ask who is/was more likely to carry out the oath...it's pretty easy
So you're saying that massive spending, tax increases, health care mandates, elective war, eroded rights to privacy etc...

You think they've done a good job?

If the argument is who's done a better job of upholding the Constitution I think you'll find it's a draw.

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Old 01-21-2012, 04:08 PM   #2
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So you're saying that massive spending, tax increases, health care mandates, elective war, eroded rights to privacy etc...

You think they've done a good job?

If the argument is who's done a better job of upholding the Constitution I think you'll find it's a draw.

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Though they all have, Presidents, Representatives, and Judges, acted outside of their Constitutional bounds, I don't think "it's a draw." The progressives (including progressive Republicans) have outscored the conservatives by quite a margin. And what the progressives tend to do is raise the bar of unconstitutinalism by creating previously non-existing methods of doing what is not constitutionally granted. Which, in turn, paves the way for all that succeed them to use the new powers to "rewrite" the Constitution.

Do you approve of this way to make the Constitution a "living" document? I recall you stating about as much, that it must change with the times. I thought it curious that you were more fervid over following the letter of the U.N. Convention on torture than on following the letter of the Constitution. And that you are more concerned about how we appear to the world when a handful of soldiers occaisonally act stupid than when our political leaders perpetually trash our constitutional rules.

You have mentioned a few times that what is needed to set the ship of state right is only some structural adjustment. Could you be more specific? What structure needs to be created or changed?
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:25 AM   #3
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So you're saying that massive spending, tax increases, health care mandates, elective war, eroded rights to privacy etc...

You think they've done a good job?

If the argument is who's done a better job of upholding the Constitution I think you'll find it's a draw.

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yes, not even close.....Spence, are you looking at the Negative Liberties Constitution when you view the list or the Positive Liberties Constitution?...because I can see where you might be confused regarding who has done a good job
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Newt Gingrich has had a long love affair with the anti-gun crowd.

Newt Gingrich on Guns: A Mixed Record - Gun Owners Of America
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:17 PM   #5
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Don't worry, I'm sure he's updated all those beliefs to be more marketable.
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Newt Gingrich on Guns: A Mixed Record - Gun Owners Of America
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:16 PM   #6
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There's what they say and what they do.
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yes, not even close.....Spence, are you looking at the Negative Liberties Constitution when you view the list or the Positive Liberties Constitution?...because I can see where you might be confused regarding who has done a good job
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