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Old 03-10-2011, 09:29 AM   #1
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For the same reason that supporting people that tax and spend with reckless abandon - far more often than not having a (D) in front of the name, and destroying our country is bad.

You cannot be someone that would pull a master lever and side with one party in entirety. You need to research and vote your mind on a case by case basis at the local and national levels. I highly encourage you affiliate with the unaffiliated voters
Just for the record, the quote you responded to wasn't from me. Somehow, Zimmy and my quotes got messed up.

And Zimmy, you might want to be a litle more careful when using statements like "Conservatives seem to have no problem" and "I would guess in most cases they aren't aware". It makes you seem like you don't believe that there are conservatives who are informed, which is wrong. Don't paint with such a broad brush, dude.

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Old 03-10-2011, 09:59 AM   #2
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Just for the record, the quote you responded to wasn't from me. Somehow, Zimmy and my quotes got messed up.

And Zimmy, you might want to be a litle more careful when using statements like "Conservatives seem to have no problem" and "I would guess in most cases they aren't aware". It makes you seem like you don't believe that there are conservatives who are informed, which is wrong. Don't paint with such a broad brush, dude.
You are right, it should have said many conservatives seem to put more weight on the idea of taxes are bad, liberals spend too much. There is no way to have any of these conversations without generalizing, so let's not take offense when it happens.

Obviously, not all conservatives feel one particular way or are uninformed, just like all liberals aren't gun-hating, cross-dressing socialists. The problem is that the public mantra of the tea party and republic party is that the problem with the country is unions, funding for NPR, the EPA, the park service etc. Yet these same groups as an organization never stand up against the enormous amount of money that goes to Cargill, Monsanto, DuPont, Perdue, Exxon, etc. Why not? I think the answer is obvious.

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Old 03-10-2011, 10:28 AM   #3
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It makes you seem like you don't believe that there are conservatives who are informed, which is wrong. Don't paint with such a broad brush, dude.
Thats a valid point, but how many of the people, many of whom never listen to NPR are railing on them for taking public money, know they get ~10% of their budget from federal dollars?

the same thing happens when state tax payers get up in arms about state universities wasting tax payer money with some hire or action, but the % of the budget that comes from the gov't might be 10% or less....

staying informed is the only way to go.

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staying informed is the only way to go.

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I love you Bry.... but you voted for Linc Chaffee as the "best man to lead us forward"...now, unless you meant forward off a cliff or a bridge, you shouldn't make statements like that.....
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Thats a valid point, but how many of the people, many of whom never listen to NPR are railing on them for taking public money, know they get ~10% of their budget from federal dollars?

the same thing happens when state tax payers get up in arms about state universities wasting tax payer money with some hire or action, but the % of the budget that comes from the gov't might be 10% or less....

staying informed is the only way to go.

for WRNI, best hours of the day is 0900-100 and after ~2200 or so; BBC world news...
It's just my opinion, Bryan. I don't like any of my tax $'s paying for a radio or television station I don't listen to or watch. If I was a big fan of say NPR or PBS I would gladly donate during one of their pledge drives.

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It's just my opinion, Bryan. I don't like any of my tax $'s paying for a radio or television station I don't listen to or watch. If I was a big fan of say NPR or PBS I would gladly donate during one of their pledge drives.
And thats a perfectly valid opinion.

I was asking how many of the people spititng rhetoric know the facts. thats all.

You'll see NPR continue on w/ less or no federal funding in the future.

This thread has gotten way off track..
Locally, what are the choices? WPRO? 920? leaning well right, or WRNI leaning left...
show me the unbaised news source, I'd like to listen to it.

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And thats a perfectly valid opinion.

I was asking how many of the people spititng rhetoric know the facts. thats all.

You'll see NPR continue on w/ less or no federal funding in the future.

This thread has gotten way off track..
Locally, what are the choices? WPRO? 920? leaning well right, or WRNI leaning left...
show me the unbaised news source, I'd like to listen to it.

I thought the irony of all this was obvious but everyone is missing it. A NPR top exec spewing hatred to Americans (sorry tea party and repubs are americans like it or not) while meeting with a foreign entity that has terrorist ties. All the while under an umbrella that NPR is an unbiased news source. But fired Juan William for making a statemetn that every person with common sense agrees with. Oh well. They showed their true colors. Its funny the left only loves intellectuals when they agree with them. Lots of intellectuals at the WSJ too.
An NPR will soldier on with no fed funding but with much less credibility that will eventually erode their funding.
Bry - the unbiased news source? Listen to both sides, look around you and form your own opinion.

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I've noticed that the non-anti-intellectuals really struggle with things like facts and reality....but they are pretty solid with the usual talking points
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I've noticed that the non-anti-intellectuals really struggle with things like facts and reality....but they are pretty solid with the usual talking points
Funny, I thought the exact same thing about the anti-intellectuals.

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An intellectual is a person who uses intelligence (thought and reason) and critical or analytical reasoning in either a professional or a personal capacity.

anti-intellectuals, then would be the antithesis.

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no fed funding but with much less credibility that will eventually erode their funding.
Actually, maybe they will be like fox and be huge. Lack of credibility certainly seems to help there. Heck hannity and Crazy Glen even got there own shows there. Lack credibility and lack of bias haven't hurt them. Same with Rush.

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Actually, maybe they will be like fox and be huge. Lack of credibility certainly seems to help there. Heck hannity and Crazy Glen even got there own shows there. Lack credibility and lack of bias haven't hurt them. Same with Rush.
what you are doing is mixing news with opinion. Those shows you reference are opinion shows. Just like Matthews and Oberman.
I would argue NPR, and I am a listener, has many opinion shows. They dont express an opinion directly, they only give one side of the story.

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An NPR will soldier on with no fed funding but with much less credibility that will eventually erode their funding.
So, it will become the fox news of the left


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Bry - the unbiased news source? Listen to both sides, look around you and form your own opinion.
Thats what I try and do with everything, not just politics

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Bry - the unbiased news source? Listen to both sides, look around you and form your own opinion.
Best advise of all, along with John's advise to pull the lever for the best person.

I like my opinions best

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