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09-15-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
JD, your selling the American people short.
I would say that might have been true 3 months ago, but after seeing all these take overs ,
spending programs and HC trying to be pushed on them, the American people have taken notice and are fast learners.
Like they say:
"Ya can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all of the time." I would bet however ,when it comes to Obama and Congress 3/5 don't know all that's in, or could fully explain what's in the HC proposals.
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As many here know, I have very little faith in the Average American. People that state they don't have time to fully evaluate the issues before voting for president, people that simply vote by party, people that don't even know what exactly they're voting for.
Working very intimately with people from all walks of life for the last 15 years in a significant variety of fields and jobs as taught me one thing: the average person is an idiot.
If you want to contest it, just go for a 10 minute drive, or sit at the RMV for 30 minutes, fly, go to a high-end retail outlet or simply go order some coffee. When it comes to encounters with "the average American", more people are completely out of their minds than not.
Call me a cynic, but work in Emergency Medicine for over 6 years, and you'll see.
If the people drafting the bill, championing for it or petitioning against it are unsure what is actually in the bill, how can your average American know?
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09-15-2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
As many here know, I have very little faith in the Average American. People that state they don't have time to fully evaluate the issues before voting for president, people that simply vote by party, people that don't even know what exactly they're voting for.
Working very intimately with people from all walks of life for the last 15 years in a significant variety of fields and jobs as taught me one thing: the average person is an idiot.
If you want to contest it, just go for a 10 minute drive, or sit at the RMV for 30 minutes, fly, go to a high-end retail outlet or simply go order some coffee. When it comes to encounters with "the average American", more people are completely out of their minds than not.
Call me a cynic, but work in Emergency Medicine for over 6 years, and you'll see.
If the people drafting the bill, championing for it or petitioning against it are unsure what is actually in the bill, how can your average American know?
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Must suck going through life always being the smartest guy in the room. How dare the common man delay your license renewal... board the same plane... or slow your morning coffee stop? I can only imagine the cross you bear wading through the idiots every day. 
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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09-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bronko
Must suck going through life always being the smartest guy in the room. How dare the common man delay your license renewal... board the same plane... or slow your morning coffee stop? I can only imagine the cross you bear wading through the idiots every day. 
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It's terrible.
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09-15-2009, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
As many here know, I have very little faith in the Average American. People that state they don't have time to fully evaluate the issues before voting for president, people that simply vote by party, people that don't even know what exactly they're voting for.
Working very intimately with people from all walks of life for the last 15 years in a significant variety of fields and jobs as taught me one thing: the average person is an idiot.
If you want to contest it, just go for a 10 minute drive, or sit at the RMV for 30 minutes, fly, go to a high-end retail outlet or simply go order some coffee. When it comes to encounters with "the average American", more people are completely out of their minds than not.
Call me a cynic, but work in Emergency Medicine for over 6 years, and you'll see.
If the people drafting the bill, championing for it or petitioning against it are unsure what is actually in the bill, how can your average American know?
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You have seen the world beyond the average American, learned more and know more.
You have become liberal elite. Congrats
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09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Call me a cynic, but work in Emergency Medicine for over 6 years, and you'll see.
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First JD, let me thank you for your EMT work in the inner city. Takes a special
kind of person to do that work under those conditions.
Having worked in the inner city for 32 years, i understand your
frustrations.
Your ideas and feelings of the inner city were formed from your experience,
and therefore wisdom to know how many of these give away programs
are useless in helping the people, if I've read some of your posts correctly.
The same with the American people, especially the ones that have been around for 40 or more years, see the failure of the politicians,
and their government nanny programs, and how they have put us in debt.
From that experience they have formed the wisdom to know these programs are stop gap measures and are not permanent solutions.
They may not know every nuance of the bills, but their experience and wisdom,
like yours, says enough is enough,they don't work.
We have all these so called intelligent libertine thinkers and think tanks working on these programs with very little experience in the real world outside of Washington, and therefore not the wisdom to come up with permanent solutions.
When it comes to people in general, it's more important to me that they have
character and wisdom than what degree they hold, or how smart they are or
aren't. A lot of good solid people in this country and they have taught me a lot.
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" Choose Life "
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09-15-2009, 02:00 PM
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I heard Charlie Gibson, a "BIG THREE" anchor say, when asked about the Acorn tapes and scandal comment this morning, "I haven't heard anything about that"....tapes now from Baltimore, DC, NYC and LA that are revolting, also heard George Stephanopolus with a host recently who read to him quotes from Van Jones, Holdren and a number of other Obama appointees state, " I've never heard any of this"....the mainstream media is complicit in protecting and promoting Obama at all costs and in doing so are a danger to this nation...are these the really smart and informed individuals that JD is referring to?
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09-15-2009, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
First JD, let me thank you for your EMT work in the inner city. Takes a special
kind of person to do that work under those conditions.
Having worked in the inner city for 32 years, i understand your
frustrations.
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I would never be one to call myself wise. There are many with decades more wisdom than I will ever have. I do greatly appreciate your words though.
Sometimes (or quite often rather) the work makes you quite jaded. Working unprotected, one-on-one with people in the streets of Hartford provided me a lot of insight into another world I never would have seen otherwise, along with experiences I never would have had (and many I wish I had never had - assaulted by a crackhead patient for one, and 100 feet from a gang shootout as another).
I have another job now, but keep my medical credentials current. Not only as a just in case, but also because I overall enjoyed the work even with the negatives.
Don't thank me, as I am not worthy of it. Thank those like Swimmer and the other LEOs on the site along with the Firefighters that work everyday to keep us safer than we could ever be without them.
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09-15-2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I would never be one to call myself wise. There are many with decades more wisdom than I will ever have. I do greatly appreciate your words though.
Sometimes (or quite often rather) the work makes you quite jaded. Working unprotected, one-on-one with people in the streets of Hartford provided me a lot of insight into another world I never would have seen otherwise, along with experiences I never would have had.
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Don't sell yourself short JD, your experience has helped to make you wise
just as the American peoples experience with failed programs and high
taxes over time, have made many wise too.
At the present, imho, Washinton is lacking both experience and wisdom.
Oh and BTW, the fact you acknowledge hat others have more wisdom than you is wise in itself. 
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09-15-2009, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Oh and BTW, the fact you acknowledge hat others have more wisdom than you is wise in itself. 
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It's called " backpedaling" 
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09-15-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
It's called " backpedaling" 
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Haha... I wish I knew how to use smilies with my cell phone.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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09-16-2009, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Haha... I wish I knew how to use smilies with my cell phone.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Not meant to be derogatory, JD, just part of the process. 
Something like when a person becomes humble, they realize that as much as they think they know,
there is so much more that they don't, and can see the intelligence of others.
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