More common sense from the The White House

[Cool Beans]

The left blames Bush for every mistake made during his 8 years, from Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan to the Stock Exchange and the Housing crisis and even for 9/11 in some parts of the left. Obama is big enough to shoulder the blame for this. He left the idiot in charge of the plane.

[striperman36]

It is a totally stupid thing. Again it just seems like all the federal agencies knew, nobody said, Stoopid do you really think this is a GOOD idea?
And then nobody told the state and locals crap.

How detached is our governments from reality, regardless of the party or sexual preference.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

The left blames Bush for every mistake made during his 8 years, from Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan to the Stock Exchange and the Housing crisis and even for 9/11 in some parts of the left. Obama is big enough to shoulder the blame for this. He left the idiot in charge of the plane.

Bad analogy.

-spence

[Cool Beans]

Just seems to make sense to me, if you hire someone to act on your behalf and give them authority to make decisions for you, you are still responsible for any mistakes they make. You can delegate authority, but you can't delegate responsibility, thats why you should carefully pick those you want to make decisions for you.

[striperman36]

some administrative positions at carryovers from previous administrations.
I'd like to see any executive in business take that position.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Just seems to make sense to me, if you hire someone to act on your behalf and give them authority to make decisions for you, you are still responsible for any mistakes they make. You can delegate authority, but you can't delegate responsibility, thats why you should carefully pick those you want to make decisions for you.

Responsibility isn't the same as culpability. Obama made an apology and said it will never happen again. Ultimately it was a gaff but not one that resulted in any real harm.

-spence

[striperman36]

Statement from Louis Caldera, Director White House Military Office, on Air Force One flight over New York


"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision. While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused."


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_...over-New-York/

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Statement from Louis Caldera, Director White House Military Office, on Air Force One flight over New York


"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision. While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused."


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_...over-New-York/

Conversation 30 minutes prior to this,

Caldera, "Don't worry Mr. President, I'll fall on the sword. You wait 30 minutes and say how upset you are and say you're sorry and will never ever ever let me near that plane again."

Obama, "OK that sounds good, get someone to que that up on the teleprompter for me."

[striperman36]

The guy had good credentials. Amazing

[buckman]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Statement from Louis Caldera, Director White House Military Office, on Air Force One flight over New York


"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision.I am a stupid a$$. While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, Nobody had the brains to point out what a stupid a$$ I am. It’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused. Who could have guessed?And if you buy this, then you are a bigger stupid a$$ then I.

$320.000.00 Photo op...... Part of the Stimulas Bill maybe?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Just seems to make sense to me, if you hire someone to act on your behalf and give them authority to make decisions for you, you are still responsible for any mistakes they make. You can delegate authority, but you can't delegate responsibility, thats why you should carefully pick those you want to make decisions for you.

There you have it - Pres. Bush is responsible for torture.

[Bronko]

* This is not about Bush

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

There you have it - Pres. Bush is responsible for torture.

What torture?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

What torture?

The same waterboarding torture that we prosectuted after WWII in the war crime trials.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The same waterboarding torture that we prosectuted after WWII in the war crime trials.

You're not quoting Ted Kennedy are you? But he would be the expert on drowning, I mean simulated drowning (waterboarding)

Waterboarding cannot kill you, water on canvas may make you believe you are drowning but you're not going to die. It will definitely scare the crap out of you, but you are not in danger of dieing.

The WWII reference you made, yes the Japanese did simulate drowning by actually pouring water in your mouth and nose or dunking prisoners heads in barrels of water. This could kill you, and did kill some of the prisoners.

I just think it's funny that you would reference something Kennedy said on the house floor. Comparing waterboarding to the WWII instances is like comparing a kid shooting spitwads to a gang banger doing a drive by.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

The left blames Bush for every mistake made during his 8 years, from Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan to the Stock Exchange and the Housing crisis and even for 9/11 in some parts of the left. Obama is big enough to shoulder the blame for this. He left the idiot in charge of the plane.

To his credit He did say, that even though He knew nothing about it, he would never, ever do it again. Sounds fine coming from a 4 year old, but not the President of the United States.

They seem to have alot more embaressing screwups in the first 100 days then Bush did.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by buckman

To his credit He did say, that even though He knew nothing about it, he would never, ever do it again. Sounds fine coming from a 4 year old, but not the President of the United States.

They seem to have alot more embaressing screwups in the first 100 days then Bush did.

In your opinion and that we know about