So now Nth Korea has Nuke warheads?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

Initially Saddam was certainly playing games with the inspectors, Hans Blix even reported about this to the UN. But as the US Troops built up Saddam did become more cooperative.

What's important to note though is that Blix stated very specifically that they were confident in their findings even knowing that Saddam was attempting to hamper their progress.

The inspections were not finished because Bush started the invasion. Blix requested some more time, less than a month if I remember, to complete their report.

I think we can both agree that the decision to go to war was made in advance and that the UN process was simply an attempt to appease the middle.

This was Bush's conundrum. The case for war was so thin he couldn't risk invading without legal authority as the hard line neo-cons so desired. Going to the UN ultimately proved to just make things look worse when the "given" justification for war proved to be invalid.

It's too bad that Powell lost the argument...

-spence

uhhhh, not this again. How many freakin UN resolutions did they break, over and over and over and over again.
We always forget that war monger Bush came out and gave Sadam and untimatum of 48 hrs to leave the country. I think we jumped through more hoops to avoid war than any other time in history.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I think we jumped through more hoops to avoid war than any other time in history.

You have got to be %$%$%$%$ing kidding
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You have got to be %$%$%$%$ing kidding
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I recall endless resolutions also. Saddam laughed at the UN as did most of the world. I remember the left saying the war would be another Vietnam. Saddam would turn loose his gasses on our troops. You know, the gasses that everyone now says, they knew he didn't have ,(BS). We won the first war, he had rules he was to follow, he ignored, taunted and ridiculed the UN inspectors.

I still believe we were right in going in there and the big picture will become clearer for you Libs,when Obama takes credit for bringing Democracy in the Middle East.

[Nebe]

was it worth it? Think hard now..

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

was it worth it? Think hard now..

I had high hopes for you. I thought you were coming around.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by Nebe

was it worth it? Think hard now..

Drop by the naval Base in Newport and ask every Marine you see, and almost to a man, they will say it was most definitely worth it. Many of them have pulled 3 to 5 tours over there and still would volunteer again. So if the guys that are paying the ultimate price say it was/is worth it, I will take their word for it.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Drop by the naval Base in Newport and ask every Marine you see, and almost to a man, they will say it was most definitely worth it. Many of them have pulled 3 to 5 tours over there and still would volunteer again. So if the guys that are paying the ultimate price say it was/is worth it, I will take their word for it.

So is that why so many returning vets ran for Congress as Dems in 2006?

-spence

[Cool Beans]

Just saying what I've been told during the last 3 years stationed in Newport, and I did ask a lot of those I met that had done multiple tours and they nearly all said that they wanted to continue the great work that we are doing over there. They often tell of stories of how much the locals appreciate them and how they have seen so much in improvements in the daily lives of the locals. I know a couple guys that just left on their 6th tour (volunteered on last 2). It's hard for someone to gauge success from the States, but they tell me that it is all worth it, and they do not want to quit before the job is done. Then you usually get their "grunt" followed by a "Semper Fi".

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I think we jumped through more hoops to avoid war than any other time in history.

This statement is so absurd I don't even know where to begin...

-spence

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

This statement is so absurd I don't even know where to begin...

-spence

how about this.... jim was Bushwhacked.. plain and simple.