So it looks like "Dissent is patriotic is already out the window!

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I agree. This bill is not what they are saying it is...

I think double digit inflation is right around the corner.

[Fishpart]

Democrat Action Plan:

1) Spend money to correct problem

2) Tax the $hit out of the people who are productive to fund it.

3) When it fails "It would have worked but we didn't have enough money."

4) Repeat as many times as necessary to buy re-election votes from special interests.

[FishermanTim]

When you hear how this "stimulus" money is being dispensed, you have to wonder: How do these items/projects promote job growth or stimulate anything other than some "special-interest groups" wallets?
Over $300 million for "sexually transmitted diseases? (I won't even start on this one)

4 billion to ACORN? Talk about your "special interest groups"!

Exactly how does giving money to help build a new sports facility in Florida help the nations economy? Exactly how many NEW jobs will that create?

Giving money to build a duck pond in California is surely going to turn that state's economy around, RIGHT!

This stimulus package, as presented is like any other apporpriations bill in Washington..... full of Sh*t!!!!
It looks more and more like a "this is in appreciation for helping me get elected" gift to plenty of people that definitely don't deserve anything other than a one-way ride out of town.

This is like the obligatory office gift you HAVE to contribute to, for a coworker that you can't stand.

We (those who actually work for a living) are getting the royal screw job once again.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Democrat Action Plan:

1) Spend money to correct problem

2) Tax the $hit out of the people who are productive to fund it.

3) When it fails "It would have worked but we didn't have enough money."

4) Repeat as many times as necessary to buy re-election votes from special interests.

That's it in a nutshell! Only this time we are throwing the country's future away. This makes the money spent on the war on terror look like peanuts. Remember the deficit......our childrens future... this money will be pissed away and we will have nothing to show for it. How come the Dow has dropped every day since "He" became President?

[spence]

Funny how RIJIMMY is sent off the deep end by Moveon.org...yea, the pulse of the Democratic party

I'm sure there's plenty in this bill that I wouldn't agree with, but anyone who thinks spending to stimulate is an oxymoron doesn't have their head screwed on straight.

That's not to say that rampant or unecessary spending is wise, but most finance experts I've read seem to go along with the idea of government spending as a way to get the market moving again.

I like the fact that the GOP stood together, it must not have been easy to do. Quite likely that this bill won't make it through in the current form.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

That's it in a nutshell! Only this time we are throwing the country's future away. This makes the money spent on the war on terror look like peanuts. Remember the deficit......our childrens future... this money will be pissed away and we will have nothing to show for it. How come the Dow has dropped every day since "He" became President?

The current price tag, just on Iraq is a little shy of 600Bil, so really, stimulating the economy and pissing away money and lives in Iraq is in the same ballpark

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

The current price tag, just on Iraq is a little shy of 600Bil, so really, stimulating the economy and pissing away money and lives in Iraq is in the same ballpark

You have to understand that the defence department does not just shut down if we are not at war. We spend Billions anyway. So the figure is skewed. And my family memers and the majority of servicemen and women over there, for you, might be offended by your comment.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

You have to understand that the defense department does not just shut down if we are not at war. We spend Billions anyway. So the figure is skewed. And my family members and the majority of servicemen and women over there, for you, might be offended by your comment.

You are right.
I shouldn't have said pissed away when referring to lives being lost. My bad on that. They have a job to do. I too have friends and family members who had served over there. I don't envy them, but what they have told me does not change my perspective on it being a lost cause and waste of time, money and lives.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

That's it in a nutshell! Only this time we are throwing the country's future away. This makes the money spent on the war on terror look like peanuts. Remember the deficit......our childrens future... this money will be pissed away and we will have nothing to show for it. How come the Dow has dropped every day since "He" became President?

Actually, the Dow is up. Jan 20 closed at 7,949.09. And is over 8,000. With all due respect, do you do any research before making comments?

Also with regards to the country's deficit, Bush was handed a $128 billion Surplus and 8 years of Bush plus 6 years of a Republican congress turned it into an almost $400 billion deficit.

I remember the deficit, because we're still dealing with it and will be dealing with for years to come. The deficit is money that Bush and Co. pissed away.

As of October 2008, $864 billion had been spent on the War on Terror. The Iraq war has a projected, long-term cost of almost $3 trillion when long term care of veterans and other obligations are considered.

How exactly does the stimulus plan make these numbers look like peanuts??

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Actually, the Dow is up. Jan 20 closed at 7,949.09. And is over 8,000. With all due respect, do you do any research before making comments?

Also with regards to the country's deficit, Bush was handed a $128 billion Surplus and 8 years of Bush plus 6 years of a Republican congress turned it into an almost $400 billion deficit.

I remember the deficit, because we're still dealing with it and will be dealing with for years to come. The deficit is money that Bush and Co. pissed away.

As of October 2008, $864 billion had been spent on the War on Terror. The Iraq war has a projected, long-term cost of almost $3 trillion when long term care of veterans and other obligations are considered.

How exactly does the stimulus plan make these numbers look like peanuts??

Seems to be down again! Even with the Savior getting his trillion dollars. Maybe we need to print more $$$$, That will fix it.

Mass in line for 6.5 billion. I'm sure the Dems are licking there chops and stuffing there pockets. What a country

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

How come the Dow has dropped every day since "He" became President?

Really???

[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Really???

It's been on a steady decline since a small bumb. Dropped like a rock on the day he took office. Dropped yesterday and the more we see of this package they just passed the more it will drop. We approved 1.6 trillion dollars + or - in the last few months and I don't hear a peep about the deficit from the left. Why? because they get to spend that $$$ on votes. The war $$$ they can't

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's been on a steady decline since a small bumb. Dropped like a rock on the day he took office. Dropped yesterday and the more we see of this package they just passed the more it will drop.

Thats not what you said....if I'm not mistaken isn't there an issue where the biased media distorts facts to further the Liberal Agenda....

Did you not just distort the Facts to Further the Right Wing agenda...

Originally Posted by buckman

How come the Dow has dropped every day since "He" became President?

Looks like the EXACT same thing....I thought the "Right Don't Play Dat"

The Graph I posted clearly shows that the Dow is up from 5 days ago.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Thats not what you said....if I'm not mistaken isn't there an issue where the biased media distorts facts to further the Liberal Agenda....

Did you not just distort the Facts to Further the Right Wing agenda...



Looks like the EXACT same thing....I thought the "Right Don't Play Dat"

The Graph I posted clearly shows that the Dow is up from 5 days ago.

TDF, There's no point in even discussing with him. This is how the extremists on the far right work. Make some outlandish unresearched statement, get proven your 100% wrong, then attempt to amend what you said or completely ignore what you said and try to change history.

Buckman won't even respond to me anymore when I correct him. Probably because a point presented with hard facts and figures is tough to argue with, as opposed to his Bill O'Reilly-pulled out of thin air with no support comments.