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05-20-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Lets get really wacky today...
Atilla the Hun, burned and massacared every tribe he came across, as a result Asia prospered and peace settled over the region, commerce grew and leaps were made in trade and knowledge sharing.
Rome conquered every country it wanted, forced all their customs and currency on the populace. As a result, peace, trade, technology, arts, literacy all flourished across the lands.
I'm missing history's success stories of militaries winning the "hearts and minds" of people?
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Viet Cong & the NVA
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05-21-2008, 10:24 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Viet Cong & the NVA
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And Vietnam is now a prospering country, only proves my point.
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05-21-2008, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
And Vietnam is now a prospering country, only proves my point.
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What does this have to do with the fact that the Viet Congs hearts and minds campaign undermined US military policy efforts in that region during that time. It is a requisite ingredient in any successful insurgency/ guerrilla war.
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05-21-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
It is a requisite ingredient in any successful insurgency/ guerrilla war.
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As well as any successful Counter Insurgency
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05-21-2008, 02:13 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
What does this have to do with the fact that the Viet Congs hearts and minds campaign undermined US military policy efforts in that region during that time. It is a requisite ingredient in any successful insurgency/ guerrilla war.
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I was referencing their brutal tactics which ultimately won. You think they won the hearts and minds of the people? I think they butchered them into submission.
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05-21-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I was referencing their brutal tactics which ultimately won. You think they won the hearts and minds of the people? I think they butchered them into submission.
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Much butchering did indeed occur, on both sides by all parties. However, the VC were able and did attack the US embassy long before Saigon fell. You think they did that because of a butchered civilian population. No, because they could attack anywhere in the country with impunity through a highly organized subterrenean subversion. Subversion only possible with the cooperation of a large number of South Vietnamese communist sympathizers and nationalist.
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