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Old 01-20-2025, 05:29 PM   #1
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I would like to get a print of that list, or a thread to compare the economics in the coming months as an exercise without political content being added
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Old 01-20-2025, 05:56 PM   #2
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Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.
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Old 01-20-2025, 07:30 PM   #3
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Some of THE hardest workers I’ve seen in the last decade are immigrants and I’m sure a large percentage of them are very concerned tonight. I’m sure (haha) there are an equal million of hard working white young US born people just ready to get right in there and pick your produce, roof your home, landscape your property, deliver your packages and take care of you on your night out or vacation.

And the proper process has always been to increase legal immigration but here we are 35 years later with that being ignored.

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Old 01-20-2025, 08:16 PM   #4
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And the proper process has always been to increase legal immigration but here we are 35 years later with that being ignored.
That problem has been around for a long time, Trump didn’t fix it the first time around, killed a bill attempting serious reform and this time around will be an absolute sh*t show, with implications he frankly couldn’t care about.
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Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.
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Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.
And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.
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And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.

I dont care who deports them. Trumps plan will far surpass anything Obama did. No amount of illegal is good for our country. The illegals I know have no insurance, pay no taxes, broke the law coming here, created a housing shortage, drain our resources, and the work they do is shiddy at best. That outweighs what you call their contributions. Biden was in cognitive decline from day one in office and Kamala is not leadership material to say the least. Keep that avatar though ...she may run again in 2029...I hope. This is day 1....Trump has declared a national emergency...https://x.com/i/status/1881423409898508484

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And who deported more illegal criminals than Trump? Obama did of course. We’ve always prioritized deporting criminals, this is nothing new.

As John alluded to the issue is we need immigration reform that also takes into account the large contribution immigrant workers contribute to our economy.



No - we had that - it was the Reagan era Amnesty.


We need a guest worker system - big difference with increase in the front door

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Some people have a problem with deporting illegal immigrant criminals. I do not. We have some people that have threatened or alluded to leaving the country if Trump was to get elected. I hope they will but i'm afraid they are just full of #^&#^&#^&#^&

The deportations begin soon and i support that 100%.
But it’s ok to release convicted criminals from jail? What happened to the law and order party, people that beat, injured, attempted to kill police and even the VP don’t deserve pardons.
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But it’s ok to release convicted criminals from jail? What happened to the law and order party, people that beat, injured, attempted to kill police and even the VP don’t deserve pardons.

Did i say that is ok? Are you lying? The adults are back in charge get over yourself
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