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12-29-2022, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them.
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so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.
What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?
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12-29-2022, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.
What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?
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Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"
Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.
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12-29-2022, 01:18 PM
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Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"
Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.
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Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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12-29-2022, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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12-29-2022, 01:32 PM
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And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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defend him? i said to kick him out.
you really, really are stupid.
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12-29-2022, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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12-29-2022, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.
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12-29-2022, 02:25 PM
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So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.
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If you do something before the law is passed to make it a crime you didn’t commit a crime.
The law in this country is not retroactive.
Jim’s thinking of his dream, a totalitarian country run by an authoritarian who will make everyone he doesn’t like behave correctly and control the branches of government to make it happen.
Like his hero
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Lets Go Darwin
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12-29-2022, 02:47 PM
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So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.
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stolen valor is a crime. he lied for years about serving in vietnam.
i’m still waiting. paul, how many pies is ok? and how many is too many?
I’m still waiting. I answered your question.
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12-29-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about
But Let me guess stolen valor act ?
You can’t even read the law correctly
federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law
I have 2 on the list .
Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.
But he did say this
Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort
yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.
I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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12-29-2022, 06:27 PM
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What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about
But Let me guess stolen valor act ?
You can’t even read the law correctly
federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law
I have 2 on the list .
Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.
But he did say this
Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort
yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.
I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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Let's be very clear...you're telling us, that Blumenthal never claimed he served in the Vietnam War? IS that what you're saying?
FFS, it was a huge story at the time. He said repeatedly that he served "in Vietnam", and made references to when we all came back from Vietnam.
If, in fact, he has to claim he won medals to break that law, then you are 100% correct he didn't break that law, and I'm 100% wrong. But you are 100% wrong if you say he never claimed to have served in that war. He absolutely made that claim. Many times.
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12-29-2022, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about
But Let me guess stolen valor act ?
You can’t even read the law correctly
federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law
I have 2 on the list .
Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.
But he did say this
Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort
yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.
I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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This is from the New York Times...
quotes from Blumenthal, as reported by the New York Times...
“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam"
In 2003, he addressed a rally in Bridgeport, where about 100 military families gathered to express support for American troops overseas. “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,”
Asked about the Bridgeport rally, when he told the crowd, “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,” Mr. Blumenthal said he did not recall the event.
But all you can do, is post a quote where he said he didn't serve...even Paul S knows what I'm referring to.
And this guy will keep getting re-elected in CT until he chooses not to run again. He can never be defeated, because the CT voters don't care about his lie.
But you have zero complaint when democrat voters ignore lies told by democrat politicians.
Wayne, I'd love for you to explain why you posted the Blumenthal quote which you chose to post (also in the NYT story I posted), yet you ignored the other quotes which prove he explicitly lied. What was yoru motive, if not just to serve your narrative as always?
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/n...lumenthal.html
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12-29-2022, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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Santos has told dozens (on the way to hundreds) of lies. Trump thousands.
The D lies or embellishments you post are not crimes and that is why both Santos and Trump are being investigated by federal and local authorities.
Blumenthal was a reservist and said he served in vietnam - which he didn't. How is Blumenthal's a crime?
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