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			12-28-2022, 08:01 PM
			
			
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				no, the republicans won’t do a thing. 
 
how come you don’t care that democrats didn’t do a thing about lies told by Biden, Blumenthal, Hilary? 
 
Why is it only concerning to you, when republicans lie to look better to voters?   
 
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 I already answered that 
 
Only you see lies as some how equal 
 
You should learn what a white is
 
a harmless or trivial lie,
 
And what lying to voters to create a candidate that doesn’t exist  
Most people call that Being a Fraud 
 
a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities. 
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"
 
And the elephant in the room Jim  
Biden and Blumenthal were not elected or re elected on because of their lie people were aware 
 
With Santos that isn’t the case those who voted for him were unaware of his lies 
 
However in the future if he last to re election and his constituents vote him back in . That’s their choice
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			12-29-2022, 07:24 AM
			
			
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				I already answered that  
 
Only you see lies as some how equal  
 
You should learn what a white is 
 
a harmless or trivial lie, 
 
And what lying to voters to create a candidate that doesn’t exist  
Most people call that Being a Fraud  
 
 
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 you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election.    But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know?  Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of?  Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew.   You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted. 
 
And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right?  you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?  
 
“everything is ok when democrats do it.”
 
liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-29-2022, 08:12 AM
			
			
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				you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election.    But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know?  Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of?  Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew.   You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.  
 
And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right?  you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?   
 
“everything is ok when democrats do it.” 
 
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 Jim trapped in his bubble restricting his view of the true political landscape is always something to behold.  The republicans, the democrats and the media should have all been looking at this con man long before the election.  It's now looking like election laws were probably violated and if and when he gets taken down by the courts the ruling republican party will have egg on their faces for the silence.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			12-29-2022, 08:42 AM
			
			
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				you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election.    But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know?  Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of?  Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew.   You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.  
 
And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right?  you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?   
 
“everything is ok when democrats do it.” 
 
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 No Jim he should get the boot or agree to have a special election 
 
And let the voters vote on the actual candidate.  I doubt many Republicans care they did vote in a no Christian multiple divorce adulterer p u s s y  grabbing  tax evading lier all read. So he has a chance 
 
Seems you just can’t accept that all lies are not created equal 
 
And you sound like a child with your canned response it’s ok when democrats do it.
 
So in Jim’s world 
 
Biden claimed gas prices were lower than they were 
 
Or Hillary said sniper shot at her plane
 
And Santos saying vote for me the candidate that I 100% made up.
 
Are the same !   just shoes how much of intellectual dishonest person. You can be 
 
If you can’t see the differences 
 
And Jim even with Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years. You’ll still vote for him
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			12-29-2022, 12:58 PM
			
			
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				No Jim he should get the boot or agree to have a special election  
 
And let the voters vote on the actual candidate.  I doubt many Republicans care they did vote in a no Christian multiple divorce adulterer p u s s y  grabbing  tax evading lier all read. So he has a chance  
 
 
 
Seems you just can’t accept that all lies are not created equal  
 
And you sound like a child with your canned response it’s ok when democrats do it. 
 
So in Jim’s world  
 
Biden claimed gas prices were lower than they were  
 
Or Hillary said sniper shot at her plane 
 
And Santos saying vote for me the candidate that I 100% made up. 
 
 
 
Are the same !   just shoes how much of intellectual dishonest person. You can be  
 
If you can’t see the differences  
 
 
And Jim even with Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years. You’ll still vote for him 
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 i never said every lie is equal. but the political party of the person telling the lie, shouldn’t be the factor that determines if the liar is punished or not.  And that’s the i it factor you care about.
 
Blumenthal lied for years about serving in Vietnam.   Biden got caught plagiarizing and telling god knows how many whoppers. Liz warren.  Hilary Clinton.  
 
Not one of those bothers you one bit.  
 
Partisan politics is always the deciding factor for you.  always
 
just have a rule that gets allied evenly to both sides. That sounds reasonable to me, but scares the living sh*t out of you.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-29-2022, 09:02 AM
			
			
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				you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election.    But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know?  Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of?  Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew.   You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.  
 
And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right?  you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?   
 
“everything is ok when democrats do it.” 
 
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 If allegations are true (and Santos has not even denied them), there are at least two possible federal crimes at play:
 
1) conspiracy to defraud the US (same as Mueller with Russians in 16 and Trump in 20), and:
 
2) filing false statements to FEC. 
 
Time to add a third potential federal crime: campaign finance fraud. 
 
In 2021, Santos incorporated the Devolder Org in FL, which has no known assets. 
 
In 2022, he reports income of $750k, all from Devolder. He then gives $700k to his campaign. 
 
Where did that money come from?
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you? 
  
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			12-29-2022, 01:09 PM
			
			
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				Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? 
			
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 Big article in the NY Times today about politicians lying.  Both D and R mentioned.  
 
I bet you will continue to repeat that same line hundreds of times though.  
		
		
		
		
		
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