Climate change: Alps glaciers melting faster as heatwaves hit

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You think like some people in Texas after getting 10 inch’s of rain in 24hrs they think their drought is over

You apply the same logic to Climate

You’re waiting for that one big Idea to happen and fix everything

You do understand if only electric cars and trucks were on the roads

Electric generation won’t be just wind and solar . Not sure why you keep thinking that’s how it will work

We have an old infrastructure and change is slow . And it’s even slower when one party wants to protect oil and gas . Then they care to protect future Americans.


There’s a reason why you can take a train any where in Europe quickly
Or use reliable public transportation

as for extra generation ask the private power companies who shuttered 2 in my town they refused to convert them to Gas or there wasn’t enough gas infrastructure

They removed more power from the grid in a day then I’d wager all the electric cars in the Us
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america isn’t europe. we don’t like public transportation. we like the freedom of cars.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

america isn’t europe. we don’t like public transportation. we like the freedom of cars.

Didn’t your blessed mother tell you to be careful what you wish for?

Lewis Mumford predicted in 1958 that Americans would discover that the highway program will, eventually, wipe out the very area of freedom that the private motorcar promised to retain for them. This warning has come to pass. Today, the car embodies the freedom to wait in traffic. Transportation choices hardly exist. Viable transit systems exist in only a few big cities, service is usually infrequent, inconvenient, and expensive, and is being drastically undermined by fare increases and service cutbacks. Gasoline is one of the few things that are cheaper today in real dollars than 20 years ago. Mass transit travel is many times more expensive. Development patterns make transit travel difficult, even for those who prefer it, and unavailable to most.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Didn’t your blessed mother tell you to be careful what you wish for?

Lewis Mumford predicted in 1958 that Americans would discover that the highway program will, eventually, wipe out the very area of freedom that the private motorcar promised to retain for them. This warning has come to pass. Today, the car embodies the freedom to wait in traffic. Transportation choices hardly exist. Viable transit systems exist in only a few big cities, service is usually infrequent, inconvenient, and expensive, and is being drastically undermined by fare increases and service cutbacks. Gasoline is one of the few things that are cheaper today in real dollars than 20 years ago. Mass transit travel is many times more expensive. Development patterns make transit travel difficult, even for those who prefer it, and unavailable to most.
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I’m sorry pete, we don’t like public transportation. and it’s not because public transportation isn’t state of the art. It’s not because of cost. we just prefer driving ourselves. that’s our culture. i don’t say that because it serves my agenda (!that’s not a conservative talking point) , i say it because it’s true.

here in CT we spent hundreds of millions of dollars paving 9 miles of road and built a busway into hartford. there’s no traffic, as only the buses can ride in it. the buses are cheap to ride, subsidized by the state. they are state of the art low emission buses. and nobody rides them.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I’m sorry pete, we don’t like public transportation. and it’s not because public transportation isn’t state of the art. It’s not because of cost. we just prefer driving ourselves. that’s our culture. i don’t say that because it serves my agenda (!that’s not a conservative talking point) , i say it because it’s true.

here in CT we spent hundreds of millions of dollars paving 9 miles of road and built a busway into hartford. there’s no traffic, as only the buses can ride in it. the buses are cheap to ride, subsidized by the state. they are state of the art low emission buses. and nobody rides them.

Well, you are a Republican in Connecticut….
And the people who took 11,448 average weekday local and express passenger trips were not in cars.
Ridership is increasing, but go ahead and rant.
Remember we all subsidize roads and the fossil fuel industry.
Utah has an extensive mass transit system, they too must be liberal.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

america isn’t europe. we don’t like public transportation. we like the freedom of cars.

Spoken like a true cult member. FYI there are plenty of cars and roads and highways in Europe

And Americans love public transportation. Just not the US example
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