Minneapolis teachers contract says white teachers get fired first

[Pete F.]

Poor victim

Tucker said you're going to be replaced, didn't he?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Poor victim

Tucker said you're going to be replaced, didn't he?

how about telling us how it’s not a violation of the civil rights act, which is a federal law that explicitly prohibits employment discrimination based in race.

the victims are the kids, who get stuck with teachers whose qualification is skin color.

have you ever gotten one right?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how about telling us how it’s not a violation of the civil rights act, which is a federal law that explicitly prohibits employment discrimination based in race.

the victims are the kids, who get stuck with teachers whose qualification is skin color.

have you ever gotten one right?
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You assume black teachers have no seniority and black teachers they will somehow take over theses schools

section states that if a nonwhite teacher is subject to excess, the district must instead excess a white teacher with the “next least” seniority

So basically if there are 150 white teachers And 4 black teachers and the need to lay 4 people off and 3 blacks have more seniority then the bottom 3 white and 1 black the black women keeps her job

Doesn’t sound that earth shattering

And please don’t make it sound as if you care about fairness all of a sudden

Ps search this story all the hits are right wing sites imagine that
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[scottw]

the leftists are really in their glory when they can get on a good "you must be a racist" rant.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

the leftists are really in their glory when they can get on a good "you must be a racist" rant.....

yup. it’s racist if i say skin color should not be considered.

it’s not racist to say that skin color is literally the only thing that matters.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ps search this story all the hits are right wing sites imagine that

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and you subscribe to and monitor all of them no doubt...tell us what they are saying in the comments... OK?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You assume black teachers have no seniority and black teachers they will somehow take over theses schools

section states that if a nonwhite teacher is subject to excess, the district must instead excess a white teacher with the “next least” seniority

So basically if there are 150 white teachers And 4 black teachers and the need to lay 4 people off and 3 blacks have more seniority then the bottom 3 white and 1 black the black women keeps her job

Doesn’t sound that earth shattering

And please don’t make it sound as if you care about fairness all of a sudden

Ps search this story all the hits are right wing sites imagine that
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so instead of reading what i posted, you made stupid and wildly incorrect assumptions

The contract specifies that you group teachers by seniority, and fire the white ones first.

What if a white teacher happens to be the best teacher? Is that not possible?

anyway, you did what all of you do, you ignored what i said, and responded ( stupidly) to something i never came close to saying.

here’s a crazy idea…let’s judge people by what they do ( which we can all control) and leave color ( which we have no control over and therefore says absolutely nothing about us) out of it.

why not fire the tall teachers? or the blonde teachers?

do you ot see how stupid this is? just because it came from the left, you can’t criticize it. never.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so instead of reading what i posted, you made stupid and wildly incorrect assumptions

The contract specifies that you group teachers by seniority, and fire the white ones first.

What if a white teacher happens to be the best teacher? Is that not possible?

anyway, you did what all of you do, you ignored what i said, and responded ( stupidly) to something i never came close to saying.

here’s a crazy idea…let’s judge people by what they do ( which we can all control) and leave color ( which we have no control over and therefore says absolutely nothing about us) out of it.

why not fire the tall teachers? or the blonde teachers?

do you ot see how stupid this is? just because it came from the left, you can’t criticize it. never.
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You made stuff in your 1st sentence

This is explicitly in the contract. Let’s not fire the lousy teachers, let’s fire the honkeys.

Hence you have an integrity problem

2nd the contract was passed by the teachers themselves and

The policy doesn’t mention race, which better positions the district and union, experts say.

3rd it’s called a condition of employment

In my union we approved a contract that if you were seen smoking or using tobacco products you could be terminated

Of course those who got fired tried to say if violated their Rights.

The Courts said you willing negotiated that Right away for a raise

Same thing happened with detailed doctors notes people cried hippa

Courts sorry you negotiated that privacy away

This is no different just faux white outraged . Trying to claim it’s going to throw white better teachers out the door over black teachers who can’t possibly possess the same skills .. tell me I am wrong

Jim even under the old rules seniority would supersede the best teacher if they had no seniority

Didn’t see the Right complaining about that
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You made stuff in your 1st sentence

This is explicitly in the contract. Let’s not fire the lousy teachers, let’s fire the honkeys.

Hence you have an integrity problem

2nd the contract was passed by the teachers themselves

3rd it’s called a condition of employment

In my union we approved a contract that if you were seen smoking or using tobacco products you could be terminated

Of course those who got fired tried to say if violated their Rights.

The Courts said you willing negotiated that Right away for a raise

Same thing happened with detailed doctors notes people cried hippa

Courts sorry you negotiated that privacy away

This is no different just faux white outraged . Trying to claim it’s going to throw white better teachers out the door over black teachers who can’t possibly possess the same skills .. tell me I am wrong

Jim even under the old rules seniority would supersede the best teacher if they had no seniority

Didn’t see the Right complaining about that
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make it really really simple.

you have kids in a school. the school has to lay off a teacher. Would you rather (a) they fire the worst, laziest, least-skilled teacher, or (b) automatically fire the least senior white teacher, even if thatbhaooems to be a terrific teacher?

Have fun answering that.

everybody knows who the worst teachers are. How is it not best for the kids, to get rid of them first?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

make it really really simple.

you have kids in a school. the school has to lay off a teacher. Would you rather (a) they fire the worst, laziest, least-skilled teacher, or (b) automatically fire the least senior white teacher, even if thatbhaooems to be a terrific teacher?

Have fun answering that.

everybody knows who the worst teachers are. How is it not best for the kids, to get rid of them first?
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to funny your article has nothing to do with (a) they fire the worst, laziest, or keeping least-skilled teacher it's still all about seniority until it gets to the bottom of the list

but keep injecting something that doesn't apply

the way its written A white teacher would have the same protections if the majority of teachers we Black .. but again if the contract stated Race which it does not

[scottw]

I just got an expensive looking flyer from the NEARI telling it's members which democrats to vote for in upcoming elections

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I just got an expensive looking flyer from the NEARI telling it's members which democrats to vote for in upcoming elections

and then once elected, hide democrats are beholden to those teachers and reward them with raises and benefits which dwarf what’s available to those who work in the private sector. That’s not corrupt.

here i’m CT, for ten years, the speaker of the state house of representatives was a liberal
democrat. Legislature is a part time job in CT, they all have full
time jobs. His full time job? He was a rep for the largest state employee union! He worked for the state employee union. So as a state rep, it was his job to vote on the size of his paycheck at his full
time job. No conflict of interest there!
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

I just got an expensive looking flyer from the NEARI telling it's members which democrats to vote for in upcoming elections

what you don't know how a political action committee works ?



In the United States, a political action committee (PAC) is a 527 organization, that pools campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

they cant and dont use union funds to promote campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

But again Scott don't let the facts get in your way

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

what you don't know how a political action committee works ?



In the United States, a political action committee (PAC) is a 527 organization, that pools campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

they cant and dont use union funds to promote campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

But again Scott don't let the facts get in your way

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw View Post
I just got an expensive looking flyer from the NEARI telling it's members which democrats to vote for in upcoming elections

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

what you don't know how a political action committee works ?



In the United States, a political action committee (PAC) is a 527 organization, that pools campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

they cant and dont use union funds to promote campaigns for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation.

But again Scott don't let the facts get in your way

so you’re saying that public teachers unions are political action committees? i agree. i was in one.
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