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Old 04-01-2022, 12:36 AM   #1
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you posted the names of people with guns, implying that they were involved in a plot.

what’s your proof of that?
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Oath Keepers planning to violently subvert the 2020 election stockpiled 30 days of supplies and a cache of rifles and ammunition just outside of Washington, D.C., prosecutors alleged in a late-night court filing.

In a memo seeking the pretrial detention of Oath Keeper Ed Vallejo — one of 11 members of the group charged last week with seditious conspiracy to violently prevent Joe Biden from taking office — prosecutors provided new details about the weapons stockpile Oath Keepers had assembled at a Comfort Inn in nearby Arlington, Va.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:21 AM   #2
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Oath Keepers planning to violently subvert the 2020 election stockpiled 30 days of supplies and a cache of rifles and ammunition just outside of Washington, D.C., prosecutors alleged in a late-night court filing.

In a memo seeking the pretrial detention of Oath Keeper Ed Vallejo — one of 11 members of the group charged last week with seditious conspiracy to violently prevent Joe Biden from taking office — prosecutors provided new details about the weapons stockpile Oath Keepers had assembled at a Comfort Inn in nearby Arlington, Va.
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i asked twice, you dodged twice.

so, you have zero way to connect those who had guns on january 6th, with any conspiracy.

in other words, you made up that connection, to paint conservatives in a negative light.

with all the stupid things conservatives do, there is t enough actual truth you can point to, to make them look bad? you have to never more stuff?

time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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Old 04-01-2022, 07:27 AM   #3
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time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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same answer as the other 100 times you asked that question.

BC they give to their private schools and churches that most people don't have access to.
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Old 04-01-2022, 07:53 AM   #4
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same answer as the other 100 times you asked that question.

BC they give to their private schools and churches that most people don't have access to.
and that answer is as stupid as it has always been. 99% of charities have expenses to provide for their infastructure. churches aren’t unique in this regard.

the catholic church has big expenses, church buildings, schools, hospitals, etc. They are also one of the worlds largest providers of charitable services. Food banks, homeless shelters, medical clinics, adoption services, etc.

the united way also has buildings and employees. as does the Red Cross. as does the clinton foundation.

yet you only single out church donations as not really charity. because you’re desperate to disprove the fact that you happen to find inconvenient.

conservatives make less many than liberals, yet they aren’t stingy. pete’s brain can’t handle that .
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:22 AM   #5
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and that answer is as stupid as it has always been. 99% of charities have expenses to provide for their infastructure. churches aren’t unique in this regard.

the catholic church has big expenses, church buildings, schools, hospitals, etc. They are also one of the worlds largest providers of charitable services. Food banks, homeless shelters, medical clinics, adoption services, etc.

the united way also has buildings and employees. as does the Red Cross. as does the clinton foundation.

yet you only single out church donations Did you not see I said "private schools and churches"? Did you miss that or did you just figure you would lie?as not really charityPls, point out where I said it is not really charity? Either point it out or apologize for lying. . because you’re desperate to disprove the fact that you happen to find inconvenient.

conservatives make less many than liberals, yet they aren’t stingy. pete’s brain can’t handle that .
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Churches/private schools use prob. 3-5% of the donations they receive to provide help to others. Many other charities like save the children prob. give 84-95% of the donations they receive to help others.

If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving. You fail to acknowledge that in your constant rants that conserv. give "slightly" more $.
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:29 AM   #6
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Churches/private schools use prob. 3-5% of the donations they receive to provide help to others. Many other charities like save the children prob. give 84-95% of the donations they receive to help others.

If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving. You fail to acknowledge that in your constant rants that conserv. give "slightly" more $.
When you said private school, I assumed you meant religious school, as many of them are.

"Pls, point out where I said it is not really charity?"

You said this, Paul, in the same post for Gods sake..."If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving." Self-serving, isn't charity.

I can only speak to the Catholic Church. Every Sunday, my church has 2 collections, one for charity, one to go towards regular expenses associated with the church. The church has to pay utilities and buy food for the priests and pay maintenance on the buildings, and my church runs a school which is unbelievably expensive yet they only charge tuition of $5,000 for a school with 10 kids to a class which blows away public schools (which can spend 4x more per kid) on standardized tests. And anyone can enjoy the church, not just those who donate. Anyone can go to a mass and enjoy any spiritual benefits they derive, and that probably doesn't mean much to liberals these days, but it's meaningful to catholics.

Maybe the church you go to, uses all its donations for self-serving reasons, but that doesn't mean all churches do.

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When you said private school, I assumed you meant religious school, as many of them are.

"Pls, point out where I said it is not really charity?"

You said this, Paul, in the same post for Gods sake..."If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving." Self-serving, isn't charity.

I can only speak to the Catholic Church. Every Sunday, my church has 2 collections, one for charity, one to go towards regular expenses associated with the church. The church has to pay utilities and buy food for the priests and pay maintenance on the buildings. And anyone can enjoy the church, not just those who donate.
I never claimed it wasn't charity. I've always said people personally benefit from it. I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room.
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Old 04-01-2022, 09:22 AM   #8
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i asked twice, you dodged twice.

so, you have zero way to connect those who had guns on january 6th, with any conspiracy.

in other words, you made up that connection, to paint conservatives in a negative light.

with all the stupid things conservatives do, there is t enough actual truth you can point to, to make them look bad? you have to never more stuff?

time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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Let’s see my dodge
11 charged with seditious conspiracy
They had a weapons cache in a hotel and people ready to move them
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:24 AM   #9
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post a link please, no one believes anything you type.

11. 11 outbid how many who were there, tens of thousands?

again, you never made a peep
about the armed BLM rioters, who unlike the January 6 rioters, actually killed people.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:34 AM   #10
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post a link please, no one believes anything you type.

11. 11 outbid how many who were there, tens of thousands?

again, you never made a peep
about the armed BLM rioters, who unlike the January 6 rioters, actually killed people. There were millions of people protesting BLM
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:24 AM   #11
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There were millions of people protesting BLM

In the same place on the same day?

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Is this in coordination with all the other rioters on Jan6 or with the tens of thousands of protesters or with the alleged "coup" by Trump?
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Is this in coordination with all the other rioters on Jan6 or with the tens of thousands of protesters or with the alleged "coup" by Trump?
You could ask Roger Stone

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Old 04-01-2022, 11:35 AM   #13
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how many people were murdered by the january 6 trespassers, rioters, and seditionist?

ZERO. exactly, precisely zero.

How many were murdered during the BLM protests? 10 or so?

you have not, nor will ever, criticize the much more destructive BLM riots. because you don’t care about riots or property damage ior
murder.

you care about painting democrats in a favorable light. That’s it.
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how many people were murdered by the january 6 trespassers, rioters, and seditionist?

ZERO. exactly, precisely zero.

How many were murdered during the BLM protests? 10 or so?

you have not, nor will ever, criticize the much more destructive BLM riots. because you don’t care about riots or property damage ior
murder.

you care about painting democrats in a favorable light. That’s it.
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Last I knew, the BLM protests did not try and change the outcome of an election, millions protested in locations all across the country.

Jan 6 was a coordinated attack on the Capitol, planned months in advance and with the knowledge of people inside the administration.

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