Bidens SCOTUS pick

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it was an armed revolt now? keeps getting more and more sinister. did they have nukes?

A lot of the republicans i like (not all but a lot) spoke out very loudly against january 6. i dint think america wants to hear that all republicans were behind an armed coup. but that’s probably a better line for the left than talking about crime, immigration, inflation, etc…

when some congressional democrats in 2016 tried to take the win from trump, i’m guessing you weren’t outraged.
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No nukes, but a few pipe bombs.

I don't know that anyone, other than people playing the victim card, thinks that all republicans are behind an armed coup, but as is gradually coming to light the people in and associated with the former administration were engaged in a coup and actively sought the assistance of violent participants.



Madison Cawthorn on Jan. 6 admitted he was armed and had carried 'multiple weapons' in his wheelchair

At least three people arrested in connection with the Capitol riot are facing gun charges, though the government has not alleged that those three were part of the actual breach of the building. Other defendants are suspected of possessing guns during the riot but, like the vast majority of the estimated 800 rioters, were not searched that day.

Federal prosecutors say that Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland was arrested on Capitol grounds on the evening of Jan. 6 while carrying a Taurus G2c 9 mm handgun with one round in the chamber and a full 12-round magazine. He also allegedly had an extra magazine in his pocket and was carrying a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit.

Lonnie Leroy Coffman of Alabama was also arrested that evening after law enforcement found two firearms on his person, as well as what a federal judge referred to as a "small armory" in his truck, which was parked near the Capitol. According to the court, the government found "a loaded handgun," "a loaded rifle," "a loaded shotgun," "a crossbow with bolts," "several machetes," "a stun gun" and "11 mason jars containing a flammable liquid, with a hole punched in the top of each jar." According to the government, surveillance footage showed him "in attendance at the events at the Capitol," though he has not been charged with breaching the building.

Cleveland Grover Meredith of North Carolina planned to arrive in D.C. for the Trump rallies on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors, but he was delayed because of car trouble. He was arrested the following day for allegedly assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., in a traffic-related incident and for making death threats against the D.C. mayor and Pelosi.

During a search, law enforcement said they found in his possession "a Glock 19, nine millimeter pistol, a Tavor X95 assault rifle and approximately hundreds of rounds of ammunition." Citing text messages sent by Meredith, a federal prosecutor argued in court that he "relished in the carnage of January 6th."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No nukes, but a few pipe bombs.

I don't know that anyone, other than people playing the victim card, thinks that all republicans are behind an armed coup, but as is gradually coming to light the people in and associated with the former administration were engaged in a coup and actively sought the assistance of violent participants.



Madison Cawthorn on Jan. 6 admitted he was armed and had carried 'multiple weapons' in his wheelchair

At least three people arrested in connection with the Capitol riot are facing gun charges, though the government has not alleged that those three were part of the actual breach of the building. Other defendants are suspected of possessing guns during the riot but, like the vast majority of the estimated 800 rioters, were not searched that day.

Federal prosecutors say that Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland was arrested on Capitol grounds on the evening of Jan. 6 while carrying a Taurus G2c 9 mm handgun with one round in the chamber and a full 12-round magazine. He also allegedly had an extra magazine in his pocket and was carrying a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit.

Lonnie Leroy Coffman of Alabama was also arrested that evening after law enforcement found two firearms on his person, as well as what a federal judge referred to as a "small armory" in his truck, which was parked near the Capitol. According to the court, the government found "a loaded handgun," "a loaded rifle," "a loaded shotgun," "a crossbow with bolts," "several machetes," "a stun gun" and "11 mason jars containing a flammable liquid, with a hole punched in the top of each jar." According to the government, surveillance footage showed him "in attendance at the events at the Capitol," though he has not been charged with breaching the building.

Cleveland Grover Meredith of North Carolina planned to arrive in D.C. for the Trump rallies on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors, but he was delayed because of car trouble. He was arrested the following day for allegedly assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., in a traffic-related incident and for making death threats against the D.C. mayor and Pelosi.

During a search, law enforcement said they found in his possession "a Glock 19, nine millimeter pistol, a Tavor X95 assault rifle and approximately hundreds of rounds of ammunition." Citing text messages sent by Meredith, a federal prosecutor argued in court that he "relished in the carnage of January 6th."

And what's your proof that those who were armed, were part of an organized plot to overturn the election? As opposed to being armed while also just being a trespasser? You're clearly assuming that those who had guns, were also involved in the conspiracy. Are you making that assumption because there's evidence to support it? Or are you making that assumption because it helps democrats?

There's zero evidence that most people there were involved in the same conspiracy. Z-E-R-O.

Let's be clear, I hope that one of the 85 investigations into Trump turns up enough that he cannot run again. Because I really don't want him to run again.

But a Harvard poll has Trump beating Pudding Brain by 7. Last I checked, Harvard isn't a right-wing institution. Fascinating.

Its fascinating. America liked Obama, but didn't like his agenda, to the point that when Obama left, Democrats held fewer elected offices that at any time since the end of the Civil War. That's fact. Funny how the left never, ever talks bout that. But that's what happened.

America hated Trump, but liked his agenda, that resulted in his getting creamed in a landslide.

I'm not sure what America thinks of Biden personally, but polls suggest they can't stand his performance.

America can't seem to decide the balance it wants in its POTUS, between personal integrity and the ability to improve life for Americans.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And what's your proof that those who were armed, were part of an organized plot to overturn the election? As opposed to being armed while also just being a trespasser? You're clearly assuming that those who had guns, were also involved in the conspiracy. Are you making that assumption because there's evidence to support it? Or are you making that assumption because it helps democrats?

There's zero evidence that most people there were involved in the same conspiracy. Z-E-R-O.

We are 14 months into the largest investigation in DOJ history in which there currently are more than 800 people charged and with a lot more than trespassing.
You are making assumptions that are being disproven daily.
At least eleven people have been charged with seditious conspiracy and to date one has plead guilty, far more than zero.
It is just getting started.
Don't forget that Watergate took three years before it was complete and 41 people were criminally convicted. That was for a break-in that initially involved 5 people, not an entire administration.



Let's be clear, I hope that one of the 85 investigations into Trump turns up enough that he cannot run again. Because I really don't want him to run again.

But a Harvard poll has Trump beating Pudding Brain by 7. Last I checked, Harvard isn't a right-wing institution. Fascinating.

Its fascinating. America liked Obama, but didn't like his agenda, to the point that when Obama left, Democrats held fewer elected offices that at any time since the end of the Civil War. That's fact. Funny how the left never, ever talks bout that. But that's what happened.

America hated Trump, but liked his agenda, that resulted in his getting creamed in a landslide.

I'm not sure what America thinks of Biden personally, but polls suggest they can't stand his performance.

America can't seem to decide the balance it wants in its POTUS, between personal integrity and the ability to improve life for Americans.

You keep harping about Bidens poll results, but a short while ago you claimed that polls were baloney, Biden would never beat Trump from his basement, etc.
I can imagine exactly what would have happened if Trump had been reelected. His genius buddy Putin would have walked into Ukraine and have been applauded by the people he financed and supported.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You keep harping about Bidens poll results, but a short while ago you claimed that polls were baloney, Biden would never beat Trump from his basement, etc.
I can imagine exactly what would have happened if Trump had been reelected. His genius buddy Putin would have walked into Ukraine and have been applauded by the people he financed and supported.

you posted the names of people with guns, implying that they were involved in a plot.

what’s your proof of that?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you posted the names of people with guns, implying that they were involved in a plot.

what’s your proof of that?
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Oath Keepers planning to violently subvert the 2020 election stockpiled 30 days of supplies and a cache of rifles and ammunition just outside of Washington, D.C., prosecutors alleged in a late-night court filing.

In a memo seeking the pretrial detention of Oath Keeper Ed Vallejo — one of 11 members of the group charged last week with seditious conspiracy to violently prevent Joe Biden from taking office — prosecutors provided new details about the weapons stockpile Oath Keepers had assembled at a Comfort Inn in nearby Arlington, Va.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Oath Keepers planning to violently subvert the 2020 election stockpiled 30 days of supplies and a cache of rifles and ammunition just outside of Washington, D.C., prosecutors alleged in a late-night court filing.

In a memo seeking the pretrial detention of Oath Keeper Ed Vallejo — one of 11 members of the group charged last week with seditious conspiracy to violently prevent Joe Biden from taking office — prosecutors provided new details about the weapons stockpile Oath Keepers had assembled at a Comfort Inn in nearby Arlington, Va.
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i asked twice, you dodged twice.

so, you have zero way to connect those who had guns on january 6th, with any conspiracy.

in other words, you made up that connection, to paint conservatives in a negative light.

with all the stupid things conservatives do, there is t enough actual truth you can point to, to make them look bad? you have to never more stuff?

time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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same answer as the other 100 times you asked that question.

BC they give to their private schools and churches that most people don't have access to.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i asked twice, you dodged twice.

so, you have zero way to connect those who had guns on january 6th, with any conspiracy.

in other words, you made up that connection, to paint conservatives in a negative light.

with all the stupid things conservatives do, there is t enough actual truth you can point to, to make them look bad? you have to never more stuff?

time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that?
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Let’s see my dodge
11 charged with seditious conspiracy
They had a weapons cache in a hotel and people ready to move them
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You keep harping about Bidens poll results, but a short while ago you claimed that polls were baloney, Biden would never beat Trump from his basement, etc.
I can imagine exactly what would have happened if Trump had been reelected. His genius buddy Putin would have walked into Ukraine and have been applauded by the people he financed and supported.

i also agree i’ve been laughably wrong when relying on polls.

But with Biden’s polling, MANY democrats and those in the media are clearly reacting to a belief that a shellacking is coming. only the real zealots are in denial at this point.

the polling in this case is what an honest person would
expect given what’s going on. once in 40 year inflation. no president can oversee that and not take a hit, whether it’s his fault or not.
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