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03-09-2022, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I did? You and Pete are sharing the same tin foil hat...
I blamed soaring prices on:
(1) increased demand after covid lightened up
(2) perception that Biden would be less oil-friendly than Trump
(3) Putin invading Ukraine (which is partly Bidens fault in my opinion)
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I Took yours comments
On Pete Buttigieg claims EV transportation will bring ‘cost savings’ to Americans , as indirectly blaming the current gas issue . Incorrectly and I apologize.
unfortunately Many on the right have no issues pushing that Narrative |
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03-09-2022, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I Took yours comments
On Pete Buttigieg claims EV transportation will bring ‘cost savings’ to Americans , as indirectly blaming the current gas issue . Incorrectly and I apologize.
unfortunately Many on the right have no issues pushing that Narrative
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No worries, I've misinterpreted many many posts!
I brought up Buttigieg NOT as causing gas price increases, but as being stupid for saying the solution is for everyone to buy electric cars.
Many people can't afford electric cars.
Many people who can afford them, aren't good candidates to buy them, for many reasons (size, range, etc)
If everyone could afford them and could live with them, there aren't enough available.
If there were enough available, there aren't enough charging stations.
If there were enough charging stations, there isn't enough electricity.
Other than that, Pete's ideas make sense. |
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03-10-2022, 11:36 AM
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Trump: Biden Letting 'Radical Climate Extremists' Run US
the new rallying Cry from Conservatives Green energy is to Blame for the increase in Gas prices  |
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03-10-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
No worries, I've misinterpreted many many posts!
I brought up Buttigieg NOT as causing gas price increases, but as being stupid for saying the solution is for everyone to buy electric cars.
Many people can't afford electric cars.
Many people who can afford them, aren't good candidates to buy them, for many reasons (size, range, etc)
If everyone could afford them and could live with them, there aren't enough available.
If there were enough available, there aren't enough charging stations.
If there were enough charging stations, there isn't enough electricity.
Other than that, Pete's ideas make sense.
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The technology is just not there for it to be an economical reality. China is supporting the EV development and is likely ten years ahead of the American programs. 60 Minutes did an excellent piece on this in 2019. You can see it online if you have Paramount.
It's coming, but not a reality in today's world for the average family, in any country, excluding China because I don't know. In other words, we depend on fossil fuel for the time being. So time for Biden to pull a 180 for the good of the country. |
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03-10-2022, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
The technology is just not there for it to be an economical reality. China is supporting the EV development and is likely ten years ahead of the American programs. 60 Minutes did an excellent piece on this in 2019. You can see it online if you have Paramount.
It's coming, but not a reality in today's world for the average family, in any country, excluding China because I don't know. In other words, we depend on fossil fuel for the time being. So time for Biden to pull a 180 for the good of the country.
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We're not even close to being ready to transition to renewables. Decades.
TIME Magazine called Michael Shellenberger a "hero of the environment", he's a hard core green guy. Here, he writes an article about why renewables aren't viable to do much right now. And that nuclear is potentially a far better option.
https://www.wind-watch.org/documents...ve-the-planet/ |
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03-10-2022, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
We're not even close to being ready to transition to renewables. Decades.
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Only Conservatives think renewables are going to replace oil tomorrow.
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03-10-2022, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Only Conservatives think renewables are going to replace oil tomorrow.
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they do? which conservatives think that?
You haven't seen ANY prominent liberals in the last 2 weeks, say that the answer to this crisis is renewed attention to renewables? Pete Buttigieg didn't essentially say that switching to electric cars was the way to avoid pain at the pump? |
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03-11-2022, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
they do? which conservatives think that?
You haven't seen ANY prominent liberals in the last 2 weeks, say that the answer to this crisis is renewed attention to renewables? Pete Buttigieg didn't essentially say that switching to electric cars was the way to avoid pain at the pump?
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All of them.
Yes Jim the answer to the current issue is renewable energy! To prevent future issues of being dependent oil aka true energy independent not conservatives twisted definition of it
Again only the right is suggesting green energy is the answer to the current crisis are Republicans and you carry their water
Well, then. The Biden/Harris/Buttigieg/Psaki solution to high gas prices right now, today, is for all you urban, suburban, and rural Americans to go out and buy an EV.
Biden's renewable energy rush is making gas prices skyrocket Dec 2021
I haven’t seen any one suggesting electric cars are the quick fix
But it’s the same drum beat from the right drill baby drill. And that’s never worked .
Ps Oil prices are set on the global market and I doubt pausing oil leases on federal lands did anything to influence world markets
But conservatives seem to skip. That part and present oil prices are Controlled by the POTUS
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03-10-2022, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
We're not even close to being ready to transition to renewables. Decades.
TIME Magazine called Michael Shellenberger a "hero of the environment", he's a hard core green guy. Here, he writes an article about why renewables aren't viable to do much right now. And that nuclear is potentially a far better option.
https://www.wind-watch.org/documents...ve-the-planet/ |
Well, he’s right
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