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02-28-2022, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So you would really argue that the West would have produced this level of organized response if Trump was in office and belittling allies, praising Putin, & denigrating international institutions-after extorting Zelensky and falsely claiming Ukraine interfered against him?
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if that’s all so obvious, why didn’t Putin move when Trump was in office? you’re saying Putin would have been far better off invading then, so why didn’t he?
Have fun getting out of that one.
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02-28-2022, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
if that’s all so obvious, why didn’t Putin move when Trump was in office? you’re saying Putin would have been far better off invading then, so why didn’t he?
Have fun getting out of that one.
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Putin’s goal in 2020 just like in 2016 was to get Trump elected.
I’m sure if he had been re-elected and it came out that Putin had waited till after the election, you would be claiming “well, Obama did it”
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-28-2022, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Putin’s goal in 2020 just like in 2016 was to get Trump elected.
I’m sure if he had been re-elected and it came out that Putin had waited till after the election, you would be claiming “well, Obama did it”
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you’re saying it was more important for Putin to make Trump look good, than to invade at the optimal time.
Makes sense.
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02-28-2022, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you’re saying it was more important for Putin to make Trump look good, than to invade at the optimal time.
Makes sense.
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Optimally, Putin would have it given to him.
Like Belarus
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-28-2022, 07:58 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you’re saying it was more important for Putin to make Trump look good, than to invade at the optimal time.
Makes sense.
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Are you seriously questioning why we left leaning posters are focused on what Trump is doing? The GOP became the party of Trump, everything he does and says appears to point to him running again, so when we are in the worst European conflict since WWII, instead of showing support for Ukraine, the US or the EU, he lavashes praise on Putin and criticizes everything nato is doing. Trump continues to give Putin wonderful state media clips to bolster his image.
Trump gave Putin just what he needed while in office, undermining nato, legitimizing Putin’s views of Ukraine and his goals, attempting to withhold funding, it’s an easy argument to win on why Putin waited until now, knowing Trump was not in a position to help him further. Keep believing Trump isn’t influenced by Russia, I loved Mitt Romneys comments on both Trump and Green, spot on.
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02-28-2022, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Are you seriously questioning why we left leaning posters are focused on what Trump is doing? The GOP became the party of Trump, o when we are in the worst European conflict since WWII, ineverything he does and says appears to point to him running again, sstead of showing support for Ukraine, the US or the EU, he lavashes praise on Putin and criticizes everything nato is doing. Trump continues to give Putin wonderful state media clips to bolster his image.
Trump gave Putin just what he needed while in office, undermining nato, legitimizing Putin’s views of Ukraine and his goals, attempting to withhold funding, it’s an easy argument to win on why Putin waited until now, knowing Trump was not in a position to help him further. Keep believing Trump isn’t influenced by Russia, I loved Mitt Romneys comments on both Trump and Green, spot on.
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"Are you seriously questioning why we left leaning posters are focused on what Trump is doing?"
No, I'm not questioning it (I'm well aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome), I'm poking fun at it.
"he lavashes praise on Putin"
Is saying "Putin is cunning" the same as saying "I hope Putin wins"? I keep hearing democrats say that republicans and trump are "siding with Putin".
It's fait to speculate about what Trump would have done. But it's all you guys are talking about, you spend almost no time discussing what Biden is doing, and one can assume it's because you know this is another policy failure for Biden and you can't bear discussing it.
I'm with you, I don't want Trump as potus.
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02-28-2022, 08:25 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Are you seriously questioning why we left leaning posters are focused on what Trump is doing?"
No, I'm not questioning it (I'm well aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome), I'm poking fun at it.
"he lavashes praise on Putin"
Is saying "Putin is cunning" the same as saying "I hope Putin wins"? I keep hearing democrats say that republicans and trump are "siding with Putin".
It's fait to speculate about what Trump would have done. But it's all you guys are talking about, you spend almost no time discussing what Biden is doing, and one can assume it's because you know this is another policy failure for Biden and you can't bear discussing it.
I'm with you, I don't want Trump as potus.
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Biden has been ramping up sanctions as has the EU, what would you have him do Jim, put boots on the ground in Ukraine? If anything I think both the US and the EU should have initiated sanctions earlier, although based on Russia's troop build up I think Putin wasn't stopping regardless.
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02-28-2022, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Biden has been ramping up sanctions as has the EU, what would you have him do Jim, put boots on the ground in Ukraine? If anything I think both the US and the EU should have initiated sanctions earlier, although based on Russia's troop build up I think Putin wasn't stopping regardless.
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another policy failure for Biden
Jims just towing the Party Line ..
Only trump supporters and Haters of the Radical Left would Blame a Sitting U.S President for the invasion of another country 4,800 miles away ... By another Super Power  it defies Logic or critical thinking
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