Ukraine

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by scottw

yup...nailed it

I also said Xi might go after Taiwan, hope that part is not flushed out.

This is the culmination of a decade and a half of bad leadership. Congress, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden. This is lack of serious thought by most politicians in Europe and the USA, particularly from the far left that shrugged shoulders and ignored all the signs.

So yes, Obama, the 80s had been calling the entire time, leaving all kinds of calling cards. We'll be lucky to live through it and the world will be vastly different in the next decade.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

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So yes, Obama, the 80s had been calling the entire time, leaving all kinds of calling cards. We'll be lucky to live through it and the world will be vastly different in the next decade.

oh, so you’re a racist….
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, so you’re a racist….
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I'm getting used to being called that. DILLIGAF?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I'm getting used to being called that. DILLIGAF?

You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

[wdmso]

Ric Grenell: Biden Failed, Diplomacy Failed


Germany, President Joe Biden, and his State Department all share in the blame, Grenell told Schmitt

and not a single world of criticism for Putin

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ric Grenell: Biden Failed, Diplomacy Failed


Germany, President Joe Biden, and his State Department all share in the blame, Grenell told Schmitt

and not a single world of criticism for Putin

Grenell...

"You've got to have consequences for bad behavior and I would arm the Ukrainians

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...trump_did.html

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew .. but diplomacy must run its course

But again we get the unusual response from Republican and Conservatives "weakness " besides a military response I am not sure what they expect the U.S.A or the world to do besides what they did and are now doing ..

and none of them seem to be laying out What they would be doing .

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew ..

this an impressive sentence...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew .. but diplomacy must run its course

But again we get the unusual response from Republican and Conservatives "weakness " besides a military response I am not sure what they expect the U.S.A or the world to do besides what they did and are now doing ..

and none of them seem to be laying out What they would be doing .

Other than arming Ukraine earlier, I can't think of anything.

But again, Putin had some reason to not do this when Trump was president, and to feel like now is the time. Maybe he senses dementia and weakness like most people do, and that's what he's counting on.

I can't think of a reason why Putin is doing this now, that's not a criticism of Biden.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

The likelihood and motive has been clear as day for years. I did not come up with any of this but I follow people smarter than me that have been warning of the increasing danger of this since 2008.

It merely depended on a sliding scale of reduced capability of the members of NATO, particularity the US and Germany, and the increased of capability of RUS/PRC. It also required the same inversion of will.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I also said Xi might go after Taiwan, hope that part is not flushed out.

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