when did democrats start opposing the fillibuster?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it...

Steve Bannon: “But the oligarchs’ day is coming. Remember, we’re going to turn all the social media companies into public utilities — public utilities, and get like a 7% return … and the public has to have a voice in the control of it.”

He’s a nationalist *and* a socialist.
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he’s also irrelevant. conservatives, by and large, don’t want nationalism.

conservatives want less federal control.

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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he’s also irrelevant. conservatives, by and large, don’t want nationalism.

conservatives want less federal control.

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If he’s irrelevant why are so many Trumplicans listening to him

Bannon this morning says the purpose of the Trump rally in AZ today is to pressure the AZ legis to decertify the 2020 Biden electors, then PA, WI, and GA will follow suit and make Biden an illegitimate president in the minds of swing voters heading into the 2022 elections.

You cannot interpret this as anything but a declaration of war on democracy. We are in the endgame. We can resurrect democracy or lose it forever.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If he’s irrelevant why are so many Trumplicans listening to him

Bannon this morning says the purpose of the Trump rally in AZ today is to pressure the AZ legis to decertify the 2020 Biden electors, then PA, WI, and GA will follow suit and make Biden an illegitimate president in the minds of swing voters heading into the 2022 elections.

You cannot interpret this as anything but a declaration of war on democracy. We are in the endgame. We can resurrect democracy or lose it forever.
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Legitimate pressure is not a war on democracy. The "plan," according to the planners, was within the bounds of the Constitution, therefore legitimate.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Legitimate pressure is not a war on democracy. The "plan," according to the planners, was within the bounds of the Constitution, therefore legitimate.

So the big lie is legitimate pressure, according to the planners and you.
Just the thing someone who kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand would claim.
Because as long as you achieve your goal the means are justifiable.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So the big lie is legitimate pressure, according to the planners and you.
Just the thing someone who kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand would claim.
Because as long as you achieve your goal the means are justifiable.
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Never read Mein Kampf. Don't remember ever actually seeing a copy of it. No doubt, Bannon, et. al., believe that the big lie is the accusation that they're lying.

And I'm not making a claim either way. I don't positively know.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Never read Mein Kampf. Don't remember ever actually seeing a copy of it. No doubt, Bannon, et. al., believe that the big lie is the accusation that they're lying.

Since they have never succeeded in any court action, are you claiming that people should just believe them based on…….
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