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Old 01-14-2022, 01:57 PM   #1
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National Socialism was the doctrine of the NAZI party. You, and others on this forum have claimed that the NAZIs were "conservatives." Here, you are implying they were socialists. Which is it?

Here, you imply that Bannon is a socialist because he wants to turn social media companies into public utilities. But public utilities are not necessarily government owned. They can also be privately owned. And you have claimed that the US is not socialist. Even though we have lots of public utilities. And you seem to be in favor of more and more government regulation and control of business and healthcare. So which is it? Are we socialist or capitalist?

Bannon, BTW, is a capitalist--as in what he considers "enlightened capitalism." He is against crony capitalism and the Ayn Rand form of capitalism. He wants to deconstruct the administrative state (the semi-socialistic grip on our lives by unelected bureaucrats). And he is virulently against various forms of 20th century authoritarianism. His 2004 documentary film shows the evils of Bolshevism, Communism, Nazism, and Fascism. He is pro-Western Civilization--particularly the Judeo-Christian West.
Now you can extoll the virtues of Viktor Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro
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Old 01-14-2022, 02:45 PM   #2
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After not being able to clarify if you believe having public utilities makes a country sorcialist, or whether you believe NAZIS were socialist or believe they were conservative, are you admitting that being a capitalist is a virtue?
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:17 PM   #3
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After not being able to clarify if you believe having public utilities makes a country sorcialist, or whether you believe NAZIS were socialist or believe they were conservative, are you admitting that being a capitalist is a virtue?
Sorry, but Bannon, Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro are not my idea of good examples of capitalists
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:03 PM   #4
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Sorry, but Bannon, Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro are not my idea of good examples of capitalists
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Your opinions are not golden. Nor have I said those guys were good capitalists. Nor did I say Bannon is a good capitalist. I merely pointed out that he is a capitalist, not a NAZI socialist as you were spouting.
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:29 PM   #5
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Your opinions are not golden. Nor have I said those guys were good capitalists. Nor did I say Bannon is a good capitalist. I merely pointed out that he is a capitalist, not a NAZI socialist as you were spouting.
Did I say Nazi?
Or did you?

Perhaps you could apply that same logic to America First as being anti Semitic, works just as well
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:44 PM   #6
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Did I say Nazi?
Or did you?

You said "National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it..." Did I mistake what ring it had to you?


Perhaps you could apply that same logic to America First as being anti Semitic, works just as well
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America First includes all the Semites in it as Americans First. It does not include eradicating them.
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Old 01-15-2022, 08:03 AM   #7
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America First includes all the Semites in it as Americans First. It does not include eradicating them.
History only counts when you want it to.
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