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Old 10-27-2021, 08:11 AM   #1
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The rhetoric you recite shows who you are. Do you say this out loud at work?
Or hide what you believe?

Black men with a 4 year college degree can get to within 80% of whites

https://www.jbhe.com/news_views/47_f...gedegrees.html
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"The rhetoric you recite shows who you are. Do you say this out loud at work?
Or hide what you believe?"

No way I'd say it at work, too many woke ignoramuses like you would get triggered. Yes, it does show who I am. I am someone who thinks that if a black child was born with the same parents I had, and did everything the same way I did, they'd pretty much be exactly where I am right now.

Pete, show me the data that says when you do a true apples to apples comparison, there are huge differences in outcomes by race. There's simply no way that's true, because it would be against the law, and every ACLYU lawyer in the world would be suing on behalf of the victims.

For the 4th or 5th time, if it's white racism keeping blacks down, HOW COME ASIANS DO BETTER THAN WHITES?

The Brookings Institute did a well-known (and much-despised by the left) study. Turns out, if you want to avoid poverty, you can be almost guaranteed to do so, by following three very simple rules...

"1. Graduating from high school.

2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.

3. Having a full-time job.

If you do all those three things, your chance of falling into poverty is just 2 percent. Meanwhile, you’ll have a 74 percent chance of being in the middle class.

Applies to everyone
These rules apply to all races and ethnic groups
. "

Given these facts, why not encourage everyone to follow those rules? Do you think blacks are genetically incapable of following those rules? I don't.

https://www.jacksonville.com/article...NION/801258741

"Black men with a 4 year college degree can get to within 80% of whites"

I doubt the gap is that big when you normalize for other variables besides race. But let's address the huge problem (fatherlessness), get blacks to within 80%, then chip away at the remaining obstacles.

I looked up a fascinating stat. Black immigrants from Africa, have higher average incomes, than American blacks. That's astounding to me. Black immigrants from Africa have an average income of 43k, while the average income for American born blacks is 33.5k, 22% lower.

Why is that? Are you going to tell me that white supremacists aren't as racist towards black immigrants as they are towards American blacks? Or is it possible that black immigrants haven't yet been exposed to the poisonous culture that liberalism shrouds American blacks in? You'd say the former. I'd say the latter. Immigrants, for the most part, come here wanting to work, wanting their kids to get the best possible education. Liberalism goes a long way towards destroying those impulses in American blacks, because liberals tell blacks they're victims and can't help themselves, therefore they need to vote for democrats to get a big welfare check.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-t...nt-population/
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Old 10-27-2021, 08:57 AM   #2
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No way I'd say it at work, too many woke ignoramuses like you would get triggered. Yes, it does show who I am. I am someone who thinks that if a black child was born with the same parents I had, and did everything the same way I did, they'd pretty much be exactly where I am right now.
It pretty much triggers you, doesn't it?

And yet you see absolutely no evidence of white privilege.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-j...ect-imaginable

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Old 10-27-2021, 09:05 AM   #3
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It pretty much triggers you, doesn't it?

And yet you see absolutely no evidence of white privilege.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-j...ect-imaginable
"It pretty much triggers you, doesn't it?"

No, it just gives me the opportunity to bitch slap you some more.

"yet you see absolutely no evidence of white privilege"

Pretty sure I didn't say that. What I said, is that race isn't anywhere near the force your side desperately wants it to be.

Pete, I used sound facts and logic to completely annihilate your post. You can't just concede I might have a small, valid point there?

I believe in some white privilege, as I believe there's such a thing as black privilege (affirmative action, etc). I believe that race-based privilege is nothing compared to the caliber of the parents one is born into.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:05 AM   #4
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"It pretty much triggers you, doesn't it?"

No, it just gives me the opportunity to bitch slap you some more.

"yet you see absolutely no evidence of white privilege"

Pretty sure I didn't say that. What I said, is that race isn't anywhere near the force your side desperately wants it to be.

Pete, I used sound facts and logic to completely annihilate your post. You can't just concede I might have a small, valid point there?

I believe in some white privilege, as I believe there's such a thing as black privilege (affirmative action, etc). I believe that race-based privilege is nothing compared to the caliber of the parents one is born into.
No annihilation occurs when you quote tropes as truth, silly girl

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Old 10-27-2021, 10:37 AM   #5
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No annihilation occurs when you quote tropes as truth, silly girl
I see. So it's a "trope", not a "truth", to say you need to do a multivariate analysis, not a univariate analysis, when attempting to answer such questions.
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:22 PM   #6
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I see. So it's a "trope", not a "truth", to say you need to do a multivariate analysis, not a univariate analysis, when attempting to answer such questions.
No, your tropes are simpler than that
Black fatherlessness
If they were like the good Asians
If they would only just obey they wouldn't be shot
If they studied like Asians
Black parents don't want their children to graduate from high school.
Black parents don't want their children to get married until after 21 and not have children till after being married.
Black parents don't want their children to have a full-time job.
All they are good for is professional sports and they should keep their mouths shut and be thankful. Well, except if they are antivaccine

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Old 10-27-2021, 01:32 PM   #7
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No, your tropes are simpler than that
Black fatherlessness
If they were like the good Asians
If they would only just obey they wouldn't be shot
If they studied like Asians
Black parents don't want their children to graduate from high school.
Black parents don't want their children to get married until after 21 and not have children till after being married.
Black parents don't want their children to have a full-time job.
All they are good for is professional sports and they should keep their mouths shut and be thankful. Well, except if they are antivaccine
"If they were like the good Asians
If they would only just obey they wouldn't be shot"

Never said anything remotely like that (hearing them voices, I see). We were talking about economic success.

"Black parents don't want their children to graduate from high school.
Black parents don't want their children to get married until after 21 and not have children till after being married.
Black parents don't want their children to have a full-time job."

I didn't say blacks don't want those things. I'm not great at mind-reading. But they aren't doing those things often enough. Not because racists prevent them from doing so (your stupid argument), but because they don't embrace the importance of doing so. And liberalism is greatly responsible for that, because liberalism doesn't preach hard work, personal responsibility. Liberalism is all about the quick feel-good payoff.

"All they are good for is professional sports and they should keep their mouths shut and be thankful."

I can't imagine how you concluded that from anything I said. What I said, is that when blacks make good decisions, they do just as well as any other race who makes good decisions.

Pete, who are you responding to with this nonsense? It's not me.
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