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10-13-2021, 06:54 AM
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Ah the Babbit false equivalence nonsense
I don't recall the capitol police saying they shot her because they thought she had a weapon (but would haven't been outrageous if they had).. with her hands up .. but please keep trying to suggest she wasn't actively trying to break into an area with our representatives to . with clear intent to do Harm . against orders from law enforcement to not enter...
I thought you would have said she should of complied or in your words
"if I do something that causes the police to show up and restrain me and I'm uncooperative or give them reason to think I have a weapon or I'm belligerent and resist arrest, yup...I expect bad things will happen to be."
which is it ?
Almost immediately, white supremacist and anti-government extremists began trying to use Ashli Babbitt's death as a clarion call for recruits. and now Trump what a surprise
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yes there is no evidence that she ever had a gun or even a taser and they still shot her...
I have never argued that she shouldn't have been shot....I've repeatedly said she shouldn't have been there doing what she was doing...just like so many other examples that you like to characterize as police brutality and worse
you are remarkably inconsistent.....nice job dropping a white supremacist reference
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10-13-2021, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
yes there is no evidence that she ever had a gun or even a taser and they still shot her... who said she had a gun or a taser the capitol police never said they thought she had a gun as the reason they shot her.. guess you missed that part. but you think they were all unarmed anyway
I have never argued that she shouldn't have been shot....I've repeatedly said she shouldn't have been there doing what she was doing...just like so many other examples that you like to characterize as police brutality and worse
you are remarkably inconsistent.....nice job dropping a white supremacist reference
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like Jim you need to expand your reading list
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/n...7-4c568e132ef1
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/u...ent-trump.html
How Ashli Babbitt went from Capitol rioter to Trump-embraced ‘martyr’
In the months since Jan. 6, Trump and his allies have waged a fevered campaign to rewrite the narrative of one of the darkest days in the nation’s history, when a mob attacked the Capitol, threatening to kill Vice President Mike Pence and using baseball bats and flagpoles to beat police officers as they hunted for lawmakers, many of whom hid behind locked doors, fearing for their lives.
Inside the Capitol siege: How barricaded lawmakers and aides sounded urgent pleas for help as police lost control
41 minutes of fear: A video timeline from inside the Capitol siege
The Post obtained hours of video footage, some exclusively, and placed it within a digital 3-D model of the building. (TWP)
Yet, instead of marauders invading the Capitol, Trump and his acolytes describe a largely peaceful crowd of protesters unfairly maligned and persecuted by prosecutors, Democrats and mainstream journalists.
At the center of their revisionism is Babbitt, their martyr, whose fatal attempt to leap through a door that led to the House chamber — captured in graphic detail on video — they describe as a heroic act of patriotism.

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10-13-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Babbitt, their martyr,[/COLOR] whose fatal attempt to leap through a door that led to the House chamber — captured in graphic detail on video — they describe as a heroic act of patriotism.

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I don't know who the "they" is that describe her as a hero. Again, you're hearing those voices. She is at best a trespasser who deserved to be arrested, obviously didn't deserve to be killed. She might be a martyr, but not any kind of hero.
She was a 5 foot tall woman, unarmed (we know that), who was shot and killed without warning (we know that) by a cop who had a history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm (we know that).
That cop wasn't disciplined. We don't know what kind of investigation was done, or what questions were asked.
If an unarmed, tiny female BLM rioter who wasn't posing any kind of threat to anyone was shot to death without warning, would you be more upset? Can you honestly say you'd react this way?
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10-13-2021, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I don't know who the "they" is that describe her as a hero. Again, you're hearing those voices. She is at best a trespasser who deserved to be arrested, obviously didn't deserve to be killed. She might be a martyr, but not any kind of hero.
She was a 5 foot tall woman, unarmed (we know that), who was shot and killed without warning (we know that) by a cop who had a history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm (we know that).
That cop wasn't disciplined. We don't know what kind of investigation was done, or what questions were asked.
If an unarmed, tiny female BLM rioter who wasn't posing any kind of threat to anyone was shot to death without warning, would you be more upset? Can you honestly say you'd react this way?
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Deflect much Jim so now she’s just a trespasser. But you said in response to Scott’s question about her. and I quote
a seditionist who got exactly what was coming to her.
So which is it?
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10-14-2021, 03:18 AM
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Deflect much Jim so now she’s just a trespasser. But you said in response to Scott’s question about her. and I quote
a seditionist who got exactly what was coming to her.
So which is it?
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Pretty sure he said that sarcastically to me “suggesting” what you likely believe about her
Did you completely miss that?
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10-14-2021, 06:41 AM
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Deflect much Jim so now she’s just a trespasser. But you said in response to Scott’s question about her. and I quote
a seditionist who got exactly what was coming to her.
So which is it?
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i said “at best” she’s a trespasser. read it again. those are two words, each with one syllable, a total of 6 letters, and it was beyond your grasp. “at best”means, at worst, she may have been a rioter or trying to undermine our democracy.
do you have ANY evidence to show she was more than that?
can you ever respond to what was said,instead of what you wish was said?
the seditionist comment was me
answering for you guys, and you’re the only human being in the internet who didn’t read it that way.
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