rioters getting bolder

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There's a reason why police unions, after decades of being staunch democrat supporters, are in some cases now supporting Trump.

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

i think it matters to the dead cops
and people whose property burned because your side is pushing a lie.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i think it matters to the dead cops
and people whose property burned because your side is pushing a lie.
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I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

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Originally Posted by spence

I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

go down the list...you should be smarter than that...but...

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Jason Whitlock did a nice job explaining it in the other thread...funny no lefty's had any comments on that....maybe he should have apologized for speaking from a position of white privilege before he began

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

i’m sure you aren’t, since your view of politics consists of thoughtlessly believing everything the left says.

prove me wrong. list one major issue in which you thing democrats are wrong, and republicans are right. go ahead.

the data is crystal clear, it’s a lie. the notion that there’s an epidemic of race based police brutality, is demonstrably false. but what are democrats going to do, admit the truth?


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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m sure you aren’t, since your view of politics consists of thoughtlessly believing everything the left says.

Yes, I don't apply any thought to anything I see. ZERO

prove me wrong. list one major issue in which you thing democrats are wrong, and republicans are right. go ahead.

I don't hold too many absolute positions, it's not how the real world works.

the data is crystal clear, it’s a lie. the notion that there’s an epidemic of race based police brutality, is demonstrably false. but what are democrats going to do, admit the truth?

There is no data that supports your position. Most of the country feels the opposite. I guess we've all just been hoodwinked by a few facebook memes

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

what’s the difference between how democrats and the media view police today, and the way Al Sharpton has always viewed them?

Have fun with that.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms

the best reform would be for criminals to stop doing the things that cause the police to shoot them