rioters getting bolder

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I forgot about the empatheticless nobody staffer, two seconds after you brought him up.

"Cops being ambushed every couple of days is no big deal. What is a big deal, is a senate staffer being a jerk.:

Here's the differenmce between me and you, between me and every liberal. I can say that the staffer was a jerk, and that the GOP needs to do better on healthcare. I agree with you. How many times do I have to say that, before it sinks in with you?

None of you can ever, nor will ever, say that your side is being reckless in stirring up cop hatred. You can't criticize your side. And you therefore assume I guess, that I can't criticize mine.

I don't think rioters, 1 (or 5?) idiots at a hospital or the Sen. staffer where right but why do you think people here have to comment on every post?

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred. It is not Dems. doing that. I think if anything "My side" is Joe Biden and he has made it clear rioting or shooting at a cop is wrong.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred. It is not Dems. doing that. I think if anything "My side" is Joe Biden and he has made it clear rioting or shooting at a cop is wrong.

I think that's bonkers, and completely proven false by current events. Your side cannot run anyone for president who doesn't get approval from Al Sharpton. I cannot grasp how you can say that with a straight face. It's as crazy as me saying that conservatives lead the way on caring about gays. I could say that, but that would make me a lunatic, because it's obviously not true. Similarly, a huge number of people have been stirred into frothing cop hatred because elected officials and lefties in the media, are telling them that cops are all a bunch of racist assassins.

Biden also said to room full of blacks, that Mitt Romney "want to put y'all back in chains". He can't say that, and then say he's opposed to the inevitable reaction. Can't have it both ways.

Mind boggling.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred.

that's hilarious

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

that's hilarious

I honestly don't know how to respond to something that absurd. The earth isn't round, it's flat!

There's a reason why police unions, after decades of being staunch democrat supporters, are in some cases now supporting Trump.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There's a reason why police unions, after decades of being staunch democrat supporters, are in some cases now supporting Trump.

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

i think it matters to the dead cops
and people whose property burned because your side is pushing a lie.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

what’s the difference between how democrats and the media view police today, and the way Al Sharpton has always viewed them?

Have fun with that.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms

the best reform would be for criminals to stop doing the things that cause the police to shoot them