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07-08-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Instead of playing your school choice game, let's really desegregate education.
Because despite the Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown versus Board of Education decision to desegregate schools “with all deliberate speed,” too many classrooms are still segregated.
School districts made significant progress toward desegregation after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but the trend has shifted back toward race-based school segregation. Following court decisions in the late 1960s and 1970s that required Department of Education officials to oversee implementation of desegregation plans, the rate of black students attending majority-white schools increased dramatically from 1 percent in 1963 to 43 percent in 1983. After federal oversight phased out and schools were left to make “good faith efforts” to maintain integration, significant backsliding followed. In 2012, 74 percent of black students and 80 percent of Latino students attended schools that were 50 to 100 percent minority; and of these, more than 40 percent of black and Latino students attended schools that were 90 to 100 percent minority.
This re-segregation trend often concentrates minorities in schools with fewer resources that face challenges attracting and retaining quality teachers. A mounting body of evidence indicates that school segregation has negative impacts on short-term academic achievement of minority students and their success in later life. Integrated schools have a positive impact on all students through promoting awareness and mutual understanding and ensuring that they have the necessary tools to function in an increasingly multicultural society. Not taking intentional steps to ensure that all students have the opportunity to attend quality, integrated schools perpetuates injustice, allowing the mistakes of the past to haunt the future.
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You dismiss it as a "game", because your side's stance makes it clear that democrats aren't dedicate to helping blacks advance.
I'll ask for the third time (you are really dodging like a coward). Why do democrats oppose school choice? If good schools have available seats, and there are black students who would benefit from a superior school, why would any sane person oppose school choice? Don't democrats like to identify as being "pro choice"? Seems odd that a group that identifies as being "pro choice", would oppose this particular choice, which has no downside. unless, again, the goal is to keep these people impoverished. What other reason would you oppose school choice?
What do you say to the parents who live in cities, who are desperately begging for school choice? You'd tell them they are merely playing a "game"? You don't think they have a legitimate request?
Seems very callous of you. But I'm the racist, because I want to give them every possible chance to better themselves.
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07-08-2020, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
You dismiss it as a "game", because your side's stance makes it clear that democrats aren't dedicate to helping blacks advance.
I'll ask for the third time (you are really dodging like a coward). Why do democrats oppose school choice? If good schools have available seats, and there are black students who would benefit from a superior school, why would any sane person oppose school choice? Don't democrats like to identify as being "pro choice"? Seems odd that a group that identifies as being "pro choice", would oppose this particular choice, which has no downside. unless, again, the goal is to keep these people impoverished. What other reason would you oppose school choice?
What do you say to the parents who live in cities, who are desperately begging for school choice? You'd tell them they are merely playing a "game"? You don't think they have a legitimate request?
Seems very callous of you. But I'm the racist, because I want to give them every possible chance to better themselves.
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Are you losing it again, you’re calling people names and have a very thin skin. Did someone take your stapler?
So your solution to pandemic lack of education is to conduct a triage and decide which of the poorly educated should be given a chance at a better education in one of the empty seats in a “good” school.
Every one of them deserves a chance at a good education.
Some children being required to go to a “bad” school because of their socioeconomic status or race is...........
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07-08-2020, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Are you losing it again, you’re calling people names and have a very thin skin. Did someone take your stapler?
So your solution to pandemic lack of education is to conduct a triage and decide which of the poorly educated should be given a chance at a better education in one of the empty seats in a “good” school.
Every one of them deserves a chance at a good education.
Some children being required to go to a “bad” school because of their socioeconomic status or race is...........
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You refused to answer a very simple question. Makes you a coward.
School choice is one solution. Not "the" solution. Best to fix the broken schools, but on the meantime, why let empty seats go to waste at good schools?
So you're opposed to the lottery system. Yet liberals love magnet and charter schools, which usually result in a lottery. What's the difference?
So in your mind, because there aren't enough seats in good schools for all of the city kids, you'd choose to give none of then a seat at a good school, rather than give some of them a shot at a better school.
Again, that's very contrary to the notion that black lives matter.
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