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01-26-2020, 10:15 AM
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Hmm, let me think how to respond about whether the Clintons and Obama benefited from being President after they left office versus how Trump is benefiting personally while in office??? Can anyone help me?
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ok. the personal benefit to trump, is that it helps him get re elected, right, You’re saying all politicians don’t do things because they hope it will help them get re elected? so a president in his first term, isn’t supposed to do anything, that will make people want to vote for him again? Do you hear how stupid that sounds?
Obama bragged during his 2012 re election that GM was alive and Bin Laden was dead. Obama
was using the actions he took while in office, to help benefit himself. Where were the calls for impeachment?
You’re saying it’s an impeachable offense for a potus to do anything that might help him get re elected. Wow. I mean, wow.
There’s also every reason to believe that Biden used his office, while he was in office, to benefit his son. You really have to have your head in the sand to deny that between the cushy job in the Ukraine and all the foreign money that flowed to his investment bank when daddy was vp, that daddy had nothing to do with it.
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01-26-2020, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
ok. the personal benefit to trump, is that it helps him get re elected, right, You’re saying all politicians don’t do things because they hope it will help them get re elected? so a president in his first term, isn’t supposed to do anything, that will make people want to vote for him again? Do you hear how stupid that sounds?
Obama bragged during his 2012 re election that GM was alive and Bin Laden was dead. Obama
was using the actions he took while in office, to help benefit himself. Where were the calls for impeachment?
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Trump's actions benefit him personally and only him.
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01-26-2020, 10:34 AM
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Trump's actions benefit him personally and only him.
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Wrong. Finding out the truth about what was going on in the Ukraine, benefits all
if us.
You literally just said, that getting to the truth about whether or not the Biden’s were corrupt in Ukraine, benefits no one except for Trump. There’s no benefit, none whatsoever, to learning the truth?
Have fun with that nonsense, Paul. When clinging to your agenda requires you to say that learning the truth about what a leading presidential candidate has done has zero benefit, isnt it time to maybe get a different agenda?
Just sayin’.
You don’t want to know what the Biden’s we’re doing there. That doesn’t mean there’s no benefit. Not even close. Biden is by far, by far, the best chance against Trump, so we need to protect him, and avoid the truth, at all costs.
At lest you admitted it explicitly, if unknowingly.
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01-26-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Wrong. Finding out the truth about what was going on in the Ukraine, benefits all
if us.
You literally just said, that getting to the truth about whether or not the Biden’s were corrupt in Ukraine, benefits no one except for Trump. There’s no benefit, none whatsoever, to learning the truth?
Have fun with that nonsense, Paul. When clinging to your agenda requires you to say that learning the truth about what a leading presidential candidate has done has zero benefit, isnt it time to maybe get a different agenda?
Just sayin’.
You don’t want to know what the Biden’s we’re doing there. That doesn’t mean there’s no benefit. Not even close. Biden is by far, by far, the best chance against Trump, so we need to protect him, and avoid the truth, at all costs.
At lest you admitted it explicitly, if unknowingly.
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If Floridaman was concerned about corruption in Ukraine, why ask a private attorney to go investigate it and why focus Zelensky only on topics that benefited Floridaman politically?
Isn’t it the job of U.S. law enforcement to investigate potential wrongdoing by Americans?
How could you say it is corrupt to seek to oust a corrupt prosecutor, a move the U.S. government and the Western alliance supported? At the time Viktor Shokin was fired, he was not actually investigating Burisma, right?
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01-26-2020, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If Floridaman was concerned about corruption in Ukraine, why ask a private attorney to go investigate it and why focus Zelensky only on topics that benefited Floridaman politically?
Nothing wrong with asking a private agency, all topics can either benefit or hurt Trump, and he also asked the foreign government and the DOJ to investigate.
Isn’t it the job of U.S. law enforcement to investigate potential wrongdoing by Americans?
It is so doing.
How could you say it is corrupt to seek to oust a corrupt prosecutor, a move the U.S. government and the Western alliance supported?
The U.S. government and European governments are often corrupt, self-serving, and prone to do shady things.
At the time Viktor Shokin was fired, he was not actually investigating Burisma, right?
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There is testimony that he was.
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01-26-2020, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Trump's actions benefit him personally and only him.
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who benefitted when the fbi deceived the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign, Paul? how is that different than finding out the truth about what the Bidens were up to?
answer- it’s ok to investigate politicians you don’t happen to like.
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01-26-2020, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
who benefitted when the fbi deceived the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign, Paul? how is that different than finding out the truth about what the Bidens were up to?
answer- it’s ok to investigate politicians you don’t happen to like.
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The correct answer is you need a predicate to open an investigation in this country.
Plenty of predicates existed to cause an investigation of the Floridaman campaign.
What’s the predicate for opening an investigation into Biden or his son?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-26-2020, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The correct answer is you need a predicate to open an investigation in this country.
Plenty of predicates existed to cause an investigation of the Floridaman campaign.
What’s the predicate for opening an investigation into Biden or his son?
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The predicate for opening an investigation on Trump was based on false information which none of which was given to the public at the time. The public is not aware of all information which now exists on the Biden scandal.
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01-26-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
ok. the personal benefit to trump, is that it helps him get re elected, right, You’re saying all politicians don’t do things because they hope it will help them get re elected? so a president in his first term, isn’t supposed to do anything, that will make people want to vote for him again? Do you hear how stupid that sounds?
Obama bragged during his 2012 re election that GM was alive and Bin Laden was dead. Obama
was using the actions he took while in office, to help benefit himself. Where were the calls for impeachment?
You’re saying it’s an impeachable offense for a potus to do anything that might help him get re elected. Wow. I mean, wow.
There’s also every reason to believe that Biden used his office, while he was in office, to benefit his son. You really have to have your head in the sand to deny that between the cushy job in the Ukraine and all the foreign money that flowed to his investment bank when daddy was vp, that daddy had nothing to do with it.
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If Floridaman is concerned about adult children benefiting from their father’s name, why did he allow his sons to run his company during his presidency and give his unqualified children a place in administration?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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