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Old 01-26-2020, 09:51 AM   #1
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For the tenth time, if the biden’s were actually engaged in corruption, Trump can’t ask for
an investigation, because it would benefit him? So the Biden’s can rob a bank, and Trump can’t ask for
an investigation because that might help him?
Lets make it even more simple. Say Trump believes there’s evidence of corruption by any American in a foreign country. Does he enlist help from:

A) The FBI

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B) Lev Parnas

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Old 01-26-2020, 10:12 AM   #2
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Lets make it even more simple. Say Trump believes there’s evidence of corruption by any American in a foreign country. Does he enlist help from:

A) The FBI

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B) Lev Parnas

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he enlists help from that country. boy that was hard.
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:17 AM   #3
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he enlists help from that country. boy that was hard.
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The proper channel is the justice department not another country
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Old 01-26-2020, 11:31 AM   #4
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The DOJ is investigating it. And it is also "proper" to ask the foreign government to assist in the investigation.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:46 AM   #5
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So where was the outrage when Senate democrats asked Ukraine to investigate Trump and Manafort? That letter has been widely circulated in public, and not once did I hear anyone on the left criticize the senate democrats for asking another country for help, that they should have gone to the Justice Dept.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:57 AM   #6
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So where was the outrage when Senate democrats asked Ukraine to investigate Trump and Manafort? That letter has been widely circulated in public, and not once did I hear anyone on the left criticize the senate democrats for asking another country for help, that they should have gone to the Justice Dept.
Did you read the letter?

Who did Mueller work for?

Here is the opening sentence: "We are writing to express great concern about reports that your office has taken steps to impede cooperation with the investigation of United States Special counsel Robert Mueller."

That is the difference between an aboveboard investigation and Floridaman's backchannel baloney.

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Old 01-27-2020, 11:01 AM   #7
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Did you read the letter?

Who did Mueller work for?

Here is the opening sentence: "We are writing to express great concern about reports that your office has taken steps to impede cooperation with the investigation of United States Special counsel Robert Mueller."

That is the difference between an aboveboard investigation and Floridaman's backchannel baloney.
the difference, is whether or not you support the politician asking a foreign country for help.
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the difference, is whether or not you support the politician asking a foreign country for help.
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The difference is one abused his power to benefit himself, the others were assisting the Justice Department in an ongoing investigation.

As I have said before, if Floridaman had a anti corruption campaign, he would likely been able to investigate the Biden's involvement in Ukraine and no one would have been able to do a thing.
Floridaman found some lackeys to do his bidding who were actually pursuing corrupt opportunities in Ukraine and the USA.
There is still plenty of dirt to come out of the administration's horror show in Ukraine.
I feel bad for Zelensky who has been walking a wire trying to stay out of it while continuing to receive the support he has to have and keep his position as the leader of a government with an anti-corruption platform.

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Old 01-26-2020, 11:26 AM   #9
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Lets make it even more simple. Say Trump believes there’s evidence of corruption by any American in a foreign country. Does he enlist help from:

A) The FBI

or

B) Lev Parnas

Have fun.
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You conveniently forgot to include the foreign country with whom we have a treaty on mutual assistance in criminal investigations.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:09 AM   #10
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A) The FBI

or

B) Lev Parnas

Have fun.
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this is fun, get this spence...

you’re saying it’s fishy that Trump asked Ukraine for help, instead of going to the FBI.

Yet you recently defended senate democrats for writing a letter to Ukraine, asking them to investigate Trump and Manafort. It was ok when democrats asked ukraine for an investigation instead of the fbi, but sinister when trump does it.
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