House to vote on impeachment

[Pete F.]

That's a whole lot of smoke.............

So what was Trump's reason for withholding aid to Ukraine?

[ReelinRod]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

That's a whole lot of smoke.............

So what was Trump's reason for withholding aid to Ukraine?

Trump stated it many times; even in the call when Trump said Zelenskyy was "surrounding himself with the same people" . . . That would be the same corrupt people that colluded and conspired with the DNC in 2016, and covered for Crowdstrike and coddled Burisma.

Trump feared that those "very bad people" would have significant roles in the new administration, that was why the aid was held up . . .

You should familiarize yourself with the timeline of events; the July 18th suspension of aid, the July 21st parliamentary elections and the July 25th call. In the call, Zelenskyy reassured Trump that he won a significant majority and he would get to choose the government and no remnants of the old government would be in power.

Another view can be seen in how Trump's concerns were perceived by someone who has testified, you should read Volker's statement where he relates his concerns about the "negative narratives" pertaining to Ukrainian corruption that Trump was hearing from Giuliani and others.

Feel free to not bother yourself with such trivialities though, you have your spoon-fed narrative that fits your politics and it has served you well so far.

Problem is, since your narrative is reliant on everything being completely mischaracterized and misrepresented, you should hope that deception won't be remedied anytime soon.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by ReelinRod

Trump stated it many times; even in the call when Trump said Zelenskyy was "surrounding himself with the same people" . . . That would be the same corrupt people that colluded and conspired with the DNC in 2016, and covered for Crowdstrike and coddled Burisma.

Trump feared that those "very bad people" would have significant roles in the new administration, that was why the aid was held up . . .

You should familiarize yourself with the timeline of events; the July 18th suspension of aid, the July 21st parliamentary elections and the July 25th call. In the call, Zelenskyy reassured Trump that he won a significant majority and he would get to choose the government and no remnants of the old government would be in power.

Another view can be seen in how Trump's concerns were perceived by someone who has testified, you should read Volker's statement where he relates his concerns about the "negative narratives" pertaining to Ukrainian corruption that Trump was hearing from Giuliani and others.

Feel free to not bother yourself with such trivialities though, you have your spoon-fed narrative that fits your politics and it has served you well so far.

Problem is, since your narrative is reliant on everything being completely mischaracterized and misrepresented, you should hope that deception won't be remedied anytime soon.

Take about being spoon feed .. hell your on IV kool aid .. is info wars your source material. How about some supporting link or factual info or is regurgitating conspiracy theories all you have?

Or are you one of the Trump cult that loves to tell us what he ment to say and do. Even after hearing what he said and did?? . Amazing
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[ReelinRod]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Take about being spoon feed .. hell your on IV kool aid .. is info wars your source material. How about some supporting link or factual info or is regurgitating conspiracy theories all you have?

Or are you one of the Trump cult that loves to tell us what he ment to say and do. Even after hearing what he said and did?? . Amazing
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What do you want to see, screengrabs of the call that I mention, quotes from Volker's statement?

This entire "thing" is about Trump's intent, why was the aid held up????

I contend the reason is simply what Trump has always maintained; he wasn't sending millions of dollars to a corrupt government.


Plenty of people have said that was a primary concern of Trump's, plenty of people have acknowledged that corruption was Normal Operating Procedure for all things Ukrainian and Zelenskyy ran on a platform of eradicating it . . . Trump wanted assurances that was happening before he released the $$$$$$.


OTOH, you guys have an ever evolving Rube Goldberg of feelings and interpretations of impressions of second hand water-cooler innuendo and gossip of Trump-hating leftist A-holes.

A-holes who resented to their core that Trump would dare proceed with any foreign policy without their direction, approval and hand-holding, thus the Marxist pogrom of seditious leaks and duplicitous backstabbing of Trump, all towards undermining him with supporters and culminating in this attempted soft coup, disguised as impeachment intended to influence the 2020 election.

May you cry inconsolably when he is reelected and be rendered so emotionally incapacitated that no therapy can help; you deserve nothing less!


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by ReelinRod

What do you want to see, screengrabs of the call that I mention, quotes from Volker's statement?

This entire "thing" is about Trump's intent, why was the aid held up????

I contend the reason is simply what Trump has always maintained; he wasn't sending millions of dollars to a corrupt government.


Plenty of people have said that was a primary concern of Trump's, plenty of people have acknowledged that corruption was Normal Operating Procedure for all things Ukrainian and Zelenskyy ran on a platform of eradicating it . . . Trump wanted assurances that was happening before he released the $$$$$$.


OTOH, you guys have an ever evolving Rube Goldberg of feelings and interpretations of impressions of second hand water-cooler innuendo and gossip of Trump-hating leftist A-holes.

A-holes who resented to their core that Trump would dare proceed with any foreign policy without their direction, approval and hand-holding, thus the Marxist pogrom of seditious leaks and duplicitous backstabbing of Trump, all towards undermining him with supporters and culminating in this attempted soft coup, disguised as impeachment intended to influence the 2020 election.

May you cry inconsolably when he is reelected and be rendered so emotionally incapacitated that no therapy can help; you deserve nothing less!


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In true Trumplican fashion modeled after the master with a slightly nuanced twist on “many people say”
Impressive, not

Tomorrow the very noble leader of Turkey will visit, are his thugs coming with him, will they speak of corruption and laundering Iranian funds.
You’re dreaming if you think Trump cares about corruption
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Originally Posted by Pete F.

Tomorrow the very noble leader of Turkey will visit, are his thugs coming with him, will they speak of corruption and laundering Iranian funds

Maybe they’ll beat up some protesters again.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by ReelinRod

What do you want to see, screengrabs of the call that I mention, quotes from Volker's statement?

This entire "thing" is about Trump's intent, why was the aid held up????

I contend the reason is simply what Trump has always maintained; he wasn't sending millions of dollars to a corrupt government.


Plenty of people have said that was a primary concern of Trump's, plenty of people have acknowledged that corruption was Normal Operating Procedure for all things Ukrainian and Zelenskyy ran on a platform of eradicating it . . . Trump wanted assurances that was happening before he released the $$$$$$.


OTOH, you guys have an ever evolving Rube Goldberg of feelings and interpretations of impressions of second hand water-cooler innuendo and gossip of Trump-hating leftist A-holes.

A-holes who resented to their core that Trump would dare proceed with any foreign policy without their direction, approval and hand-holding, thus the Marxist pogrom of seditious leaks and duplicitous backstabbing of Trump, all towards undermining him with supporters and culminating in this attempted soft coup, disguised as impeachment intended to influence the 2020 election.

May you cry inconsolably when he is reelected and be rendered so emotionally incapacitated that no therapy can help; you deserve nothing less!


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A lot of words ..just to say you got no factual infomation to back up everything your spewing..

Ps what kinda of American are you trying to get back to? When was it acceptable?

LOVED Nunes opening statement at the hearings . All conspiracy and but but Obama and Hillary. And the steel dossiers

Key phrases that give guys like you a woodie
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