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08-05-2019, 01:56 PM
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Pete, for god’s sake, we have god knows how many millions of illegals
living here, and it's an enormous financial burden. it’s not racist or demanding blood, to point that out. not that there arent those that go too far, on all sides. hilary called tens of
millions of trump supporters deplorable and irredeemable, maxine waters said to let trump supporters know they aren’t welcome
Anywhere. funny i’ve never heard you complain about that. because your outrage is selective, which means it’s also fake.
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08-05-2019, 02:11 PM
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If you think he was only defending the people who didn't want the traitor Lee statue to come down - keep believing that and keep defending him. BC I doubt there was anyone there who only thought the march was about the statue - and if there were any that naïve, then when they saw the Neo Nazis they should have left. "Jews will not replace" us should have given them a good indication it wasn't only about a statue. Trump was all over the place in that conference. He repeatedly tried to blame the "alt left" and somehow put them on equal footing w/the Neo Nazis and white supremacists.
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He put Antifa in the same category as Neo Nazis and White Supremacists - that is correct, no? They are all people that will use violence to further their means, right?
He said the peacefully protesting people for and against the removals of the statues were fine people, right?
That the Neo Nazis and White Supremacists as well as the Antifa people ARE the bad people, they came looking for a fight. As a result people got hurt and one woman was killed. He is not saying those people are "Fine People", not even close.
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08-05-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
He put Antifa in the same category as Neo Nazis and White Supremacists - that is correct, no? They are all people that will use violence to further their means, right?
He said the peacefully protesting people for and against the removals of the statues were fine people, right?
That the Neo Nazis and White Supremacists as well as the Antifa people ARE the bad people, they came looking for a fight. As a result people got hurt and one woman was killed. He is not saying those people are "Fine People", not even close.
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How many people have Antifa killed?
And I'm not defending them but compared to Neo Nazis and White supremacist they are in a different class.
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08-05-2019, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
How many people have Antifa killed?
And I'm not defending them but compared to Neo Nazis and White supremacist they are in a different class.
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Ignorance on display
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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08-05-2019, 05:20 PM
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Ignorance on display
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funny coming from the person who knows nothing and says nothing other than childish insults. As I said I'd be embarrassed to post like you do.
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08-05-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Pete, for god’s sake, we have god knows how many millions of illegals
living here, and it's an enormous financial burden. it’s not racist or demanding blood, to point that out. not that there arent those that go too far, on all sides. hilary called tens of
millions of trump supporters deplorable and irredeemable, maxine waters said to let trump supporters know they aren’t welcome
Anywhere. funny i’ve never heard you complain about that. because your outrage is selective, which means it’s also fake.
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Why are you now worried about financial burdens, the current administration is certainly not fiscally conservative. In fact no less of a right wing mouthpiece than Rush Limbaugh said:"Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it’s been around." So apparently your outrage is fake.
And speaking of selective outrage and fakery.
It seems you are also one of the same group of people that blame the “breakdown in the American family” for the mass shootings and also support a many times divorced President who sleeps with porn stars and sexually assaults women.
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08-05-2019, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Why are you now worried about financial burdens, the current administration is certainly not fiscally conservative. In fact no less of a right wing mouthpiece than Rush Limbaugh said:"Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it’s been around." So apparently your outrage is fake.
And speaking of selective outrage and fakery.
It seems you are also one of the same group of people that blame the “breakdown in the American family” for the mass shootings and also support a many times divorced President who sleeps with porn stars and sexually assaults women.
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you’re beyond dishonest. i’m always concerned about impossible
financial burdens. obama
added too much debt, trump
is making the same
mistake. you’re beyond cowardly, beyond being full of sh*t, you just make up gibberish as you go.
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08-05-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
How many people have Antifa killed?
And I'm not defending them but compared to Neo Nazis and White supremacist they are in a different class.
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No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.
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08-05-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.
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Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.
Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.
Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.
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08-05-2019, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.
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that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/
“do the math”.
here’s some math.
80 > your IQ.
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08-05-2019, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/
“do the math”.
here’s some math.
80 > your IQ.
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Homework up Jim. The guy you posted was there for action.
As for my IQ, it's probably closer to 60 
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08-05-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.
Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.
Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.
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This is the Robin Hood syndrome for snowflakes apparently.
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08-05-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.
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So when Antifa kills someone, because people thinking like you think there is some nobility in their actions, that will be OK ?
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Originally Posted by spence
Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.
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Antifa = DoGooders? Am I getting this right?
I am Gobsmacked, that you think there is some honorable ground here.
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Originally Posted by spence
Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.
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Antifa = Terrorist Group
Neo Nazis = Terrorist Group
White Supremacists = Terrorist Group
Once they get violent and exceed any Constitutionally granted protection, they should go to jail. You'd probably let them out, and at least vote while in the klink.
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08-05-2019, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you’re beyond dishonest. i’m always concerned about impossible
financial burdens. obama
added too much debt, trump
is making the same
mistake. you’re beyond cowardly, beyond being full of sh*t, you just make up gibberish as you go.
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How am i dishonest when I cite things you've said.
Now you've, once again, fallen back on but Obama.
Limbaugh said that and he is a right wing mouthpiece, has been for years. He ranted about fiscal conservatism when it suited his rhetoric and now claims it is bogus.
Financial burdens in your mind are only those things you and Tucker judge to be unaffordable.
Remember, the great negotiator, Trump, threw away his border wall, immigration reform and more because some on the right and particularly some of his advisors will never accept any amnesty for any illegal immigration. Politics is the art of making compromise a win, and fails if the other side consistently loses.
Just keep defending Trump as usual, using false equivalents.
The market is interesting today, Trump will deny responsibility for that also.
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08-05-2019, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
How am i dishonest when I cite things you've said.
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wrong.
you claimed that “now” i’m worried
about financial burden. either show
me where i said i wasn’t previously concerned about financial burdens, or kindly say you made it up.
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