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01-26-2019, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
the often brilliant Nebe noted wages for most working people are flat since the 1970s.
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yet the modern average family struggling to make ends meet still has big screen tvs, cable/statellite, several cell phones, multiple gas guzzling cars, kids in expensive club sports, eat out more that any 70's family, have you seen what the average American family spends on Christmas?....in the 70's NOBODY in my neighborhood owned a new car or went on vacation very often and it was a pretty average neighborhood...you wanna go back to the 70's...Eben just likes the clothes
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01-27-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
yet the modern average family struggling to make ends meet still has big screen tvs, cable/statellite, several cell phones, multiple gas guzzling cars, kids in expensive club sports, eat out more that any 70's family, have you seen what the average American family spends on Christmas?....in the 70's NOBODY in my neighborhood owned a new car or went on vacation very often and it was a pretty average neighborhood...you wanna go back to the 70's...Eben just likes the clothes
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Scott...I have to agree. Growing up poor in the 50's and 60's, my seven brothers and sisters and I were not poor but, our clothes were hand-me downs or from thrift shops, we never went out to eat anywhere, one car for my Dad to get to work, we ate mostly loaves of old bread that gets taken off the shelves. our shoes got new heels put on when they wore out. Most of all the kids I knew were skin and bone thin, overweight kids were a rarity. My parents would not accept welfare and felt the financial burden for raising us was their responsibility.
Knowing that I would never have anything unless I worked very hard for it, I worked and saved and at age 20 I bought and paid for an acre of land and the following year built a home on it for my bride and myself with no help from anyone. Glad I never got anything for free, I might have become a slacker.
Today I see so called poor people with all brand new clothes, sneakers, jewelry, cell phones, cars, getting their nails done, tatoos, buying booze, drugs, scratch tickets etc. and many, many of them are obese from all the junk food they eat.
I dont feel sorry for them...they feel entitled because look at all the rich people.
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01-27-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmarsh
.they feel entitled because look at all the rich people.
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It is amazing to me, how obsessed the left is with rich people. Who cares?
The trick is wanting what you have, not having what you want. The jealousy and laziness and entitlement is astounding.
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01-27-2019, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It is amazing to me, how obsessed the left is with rich people. Who cares?
The trick is wanting what you have, not having what you want. The jealousy and laziness and entitlement is astounding.
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wow your towing the party line hard and like most Conservatives arguments are as simplistic and aimed at 1st grader understanding of the world using the usual talking points jealousy and laziness and entitlement
The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people
The richest 1 percent now owns more of the USA country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years...
But theres no issues ... everyone else is lazy and entitled Sure they are
It not that we hate rich people we dislike how they and their business model operate .. even with record profits they lock out workers over pay.. they game the system they strong arm cities and states to build stadiums promise employment at expense of the taxpayer close power plant and walk away leaving a blight for who else the Taxpayer to fit the bill... only the blind can't see rebirth of the business 1st mentality pushed by the right .
At one time worker and owner had a symbiotic relationship that was beneficial for both ..
Todays Business model the employer isn't thankful for their employees
they expect their employees to be thankful to them for all they have, and they dare not bite the hand that feed them or complain about benefits
NOT all companies FIT THIS PROFILE but more do than don't...
but jealousy and laziness and entitlement is a simpleton's argument Just like just build a wall ..
as is putting one heads in the sand saying everything is fine
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01-27-2019, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
It not that we hate rich people we dislike how they and their business model operate ..
At one time worker and owner had a symbiotic relationship that was beneficial for both ..
Todays Business model the employer isn't thankful for their employees
they expect their employees to be thankful to them for all they have, and they dare not bite the hand that feed them or complain about benefits
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Wayne, how many companies and business owners have you worked for?
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01-27-2019, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
wow your towing the party line hard and like most Conservatives arguments are as simplistic and aimed at 1st grader understanding of the world using the usual talking points jealousy and laziness and entitlement
The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people
The richest 1 percent now owns more of the USA country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years...
But theres no issues ... everyone else is lazy and entitled Sure they are
It not that we hate rich people we dislike how they and their business model operate .. even with record profits they lock out workers over pay.. they game the system they strong arm cities and states to build stadiums promise employment at expense of the taxpayer close power plant and walk away leaving a blight for who else the Taxpayer to fit the bill... only the blind can't see rebirth of the business 1st mentality pushed by the right .
At one time worker and owner had a symbiotic relationship that was beneficial for both ..
Todays Business model the employer isn't thankful for their employees
they expect their employees to be thankful to them for all they have, and they dare not bite the hand that feed them or complain about benefits
NOT all companies FIT THIS PROFILE but more do than don't...
but jealousy and laziness and entitlement is a simpleton's argument Just like just build a wall ..
as is putting one heads in the sand saying everything is fine
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i don’t think you hate rich people, i think i you couldn’t be more wrong about the impact they have on everyone else. the math just doesn’t back it up. they aren’t worth obsessing over.
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01-27-2019, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i don’t think you hate rich people, i think i you couldn’t be more wrong about the impact they have on everyone else. the math just doesn’t back it up. they aren’t worth obsessing over.
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what's the tipping point ? when do we pay attention to the trend ?
will we pay attention when we become an oligarchy or Plutocracy?
I am sure the British never thought British Empire would end these events are incremental and are happening some are visible and some are not but the trajectory doesn't look good ... like climate change if its not now. it's just a matter of when it's going to tip the scale
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01-27-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
yet the modern average family struggling to make ends meet still has big screen tvs, cable/statellite, several cell phones, multiple gas guzzling cars, kids in expensive club sports, eat out more that any 70's family, have you seen what the average American family spends on Christmas?....in the 70's NOBODY in my neighborhood owned a new car or went on vacation very often and it was a pretty average neighborhood...you wanna go back to the 70's...Eben just likes the clothes
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This is also a good point, we spend WAY, WAY too much money on crap.
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