Trump tweeted he will "Address the Nation

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Please this shut down is not remotely the same as Obama’s shut down but once agin you show your skills off suggesting they are the same

Yes dems passed bills so have reps on the issue but Trump keeps moving the goalposts on his own team

Are Trump or his supporters familiar with the fable of the boy who cried wolf? Because it’s playing out now in the White House l
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"this shut down is not remotely the same as Obama’s shut down "

Stop moving the goalposts. I was responding to your post, where you implied that shutdowns are wrong because of their impact on federal workers. That's what you said, and that's what I was responding to.

From the perspective of workers who didn't get paid, what was the difference between the two shutdowns?

"you show your skills off suggesting they are the same"

Never implied they were the same. But didn't both result in workers not getting paid? What's on display here, is your inability to admit your side plays these games too, and that it's equally wrong regardless of who does it. Nope. Political gamesmanship is only bothersome to you, when the GOP does it. I was pretty critical of the GOP in my response to you. When I mentioned Obama's shutdown, you can't bring yourself to say that also hurt federal workers, all you can do is say "it wasn't the same as this". OK, I tried engaging you like an adult, and it was a waste.

"Are Trump or his supporters familiar with the fable of the boy who cried wolf? Because it’s playing out now in the White House "

Tell that to the widow and 5 month-old left behind by Officer Singh.

Did that cop get murdered by an illegal who had two DUIs here? yes or no? Did the GOP fabricate it, or did it happen? I fit happened, how many Americans like that cop are you willing to sacrifice on the alter of liberalism, before you can admit that there's a problem?

Boy who cried wolf. Unfreakinbelievable.

You're a sheep. You cannot think critically, you can regurgitate what you hear on MSNBC, that's all. GOP is b-a-a-a-a-d.


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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

From the perspective of workers who didn't get paid, what was the difference between the two shutdowns?

"you show your skills off suggesting they are the same"

Never implied they were the same. But didn't both result in workers not getting paid?
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Just as an FYI, Fed Gov employees haven't missed a paycheck yet. This Friday will be the first one they miss.

and historically, even those who didn't work during the shutdowns in the past, have gotten retroactive pay covering the days they didn't work. So techniclly, they got paid.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Just as an FYI, Fed Gov employees haven't missed a paycheck yet. This Friday will be the first one they miss.

and historically, even those who didn't work during the shutdowns in the past, have gotten retroactive pay covering the days they didn't work. So techniclly, they got paid vacation.

fixed it

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

fixed it

Not going to argue that.

but you'll be happy to know, I did not

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"this shut down is not remotely the same as Obama’s shut down "

Stop moving the goalposts. I was responding to your post, where you implied that shutdowns are wrong because of their impact on federal workers. That's what you said, and that's what I was responding to.

From the perspective of workers who didn't get paid, what was the difference between the two shutdowns?

"you show your skills off suggesting they are the same"

Never implied they were the same. But didn't both result in workers not getting paid? What's on display here, is your inability to admit your side plays these games too, and that it's equally wrong regardless of who does it. Nope. Political gamesmanship is only bothersome to you, when the GOP does it. I was pretty critical of the GOP in my response to you. When I mentioned Obama's shutdown, you can't bring yourself to say that also hurt federal workers, all you can do is say "it wasn't the same as this". OK, I tried engaging you like an adult, and it was a waste.

"Are Trump or his supporters familiar with the fable of the boy who cried wolf? Because it’s playing out now in the White House "

Tell that to the widow and 5 month-old left behind by Officer Singh.

Did that cop get murdered by an illegal who had two DUIs here? yes or no? Did the GOP fabricate it, or did it happen? I fit happened, how many Americans like that cop are you willing to sacrifice on the alter of liberalism, before you can admit that there's a problem?

Boy who cried wolf. Unfreakinbelievable.

You're a sheep. You cannot think critically, you can regurgitate what you hear on MSNBC, that's all. GOP is b-a-a-a-a-d.


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And what would you say to his wife if he was killed by a Us citizen? Would it garner less attention or be less tragic .. nothing is more than pathetic than using people’s deaths to forward a political agenda . No matter the party

Can you name the 3 officers who have been killed in the line of duty in 2019. Of course you can’t .. doubt if you even knew it there were 3 .. why because they weren’t caused by an illegal there’s no value in that for Trump

Trump has been crying since the day he announced his bid for president
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And what would you say to his wife if he was killed by a Us citizen?
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the same thing you'd say to the wife if he was killed by some on guy the street thanks to a liberal judge who released him when he should not have been on the street...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

the same thing you'd say to the wife if he was killed by some on guy the street thanks to a liberal judge who released him when he should not have been on the street...

Don’t go out in a thunderstorm. We don’t need you blaming the weather man . If you get struck by lightning
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

nothing is more than pathetic than using people’s deaths to forward a political agenda . No matter the party
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You mean like, parading a Gold Star Dad up on stage.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like, parading a Gold Star Dad up on stage.

to attack a political foe

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like, parading a Gold Star Dad up on stage.

Wow another attempt to compare what’s said by 3 rd 4 th parties

And said by a parent or wife who were defending there sons sacrifice after Trumps attacking American Muslims have terrorist sympathies

Yep there the same
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like, parading a Gold Star Dad up on stage.

BAM.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

BAM.
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More like tink.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like, parading a Gold Star Dad up on stage.

Khan was publicly criticizing Trump well before he spoke at the convention.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Khan was publicly criticizing Trump well before he spoke at the convention.
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the dems used his sons death at the convention for political capital. same
as the gop is doing with the CA officer.

you can’t even admit those are both situations where a party used a tragedy to advance their ideology? you’re going to tell
us that’s what the gop did, but not the democrats?

you’re useless.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the dems used his sons death at the convention for political capital. same
as the gop is doing with the CA officer.

you can’t even admit those are both situations where a party used a tragedy to advance their ideology? you’re going to tell
us that’s what the gop did, but not the democrats?

you’re useless.
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Huge difference, Khan spoke out on his own volition.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Huge difference, Khan spoke out on his own volition.
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so how do you know, that the CA officers family doesn’t support using their
loss to
advance this agenda? your
argument only holds water
if they don’t want to be used this way, as
Khan did.

here are some
victims
families who
are advocating for trumps agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/families-...et-border-wall


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Huge difference, Khan spoke out on his own volition.
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How different is it? Sing's family is now, of their own volition, publicly saying they are adamantly opposed to sanctuary policies.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And what would you say to his wife if he was killed by a Us citizen? Would it garner less attention or be less tragic .. nothing is more than pathetic than using people’s deaths to forward a political agenda . No matter the party

Can you name the 3 officers who have been killed in the line of duty in 2019. Of course you can’t .. doubt if you even knew it there were 3 .. why because they weren’t caused by an illegal there’s no value in that for Trump

Trump has been crying since the day he announced his bid for president
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i don’t know what i’d say. he wasn’t killed by a us citizen. i can make a very strong case that he was killed
by open borders and sanctuary policies.

wdmso, if none of the people
hurt by illegals were actually hurt by illegals, i’d probably feel differently. and if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his azz hopping around. it’s a stupid, utterly meaningless, hypothetical.

we are a large and free nation, which means there are bad apples out there. there’s not a lot we can do to remove them. we can do something, about whether or not we choose to incentivize bad leople
from mexico to come here, and whether or not we choose to shield
them from deportation.

i don’t agree with you on the wall obviously. but the liberal position on the wall, isnt nearly as absurd as the liberal position on sanctuary cities and states.

anyway, back to your other post, if you could tell
me why a federal worker fuoughed bynthe trump shutdown is hurt worse than a federal worker hurt by the obama
shut down, i’d appreciate it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i don’t know what i’d say. he wasn’t killed by a us citizen. i can make a very strong case that he was killed
by open borders and sanctuary policies.

isnt nearly as absurd as the liberal position on sanctuary cities and states.

What absurd for not enforcing federal laws when the feds don’t repay the costs to cities and states for those action.. it’s not as if illegals are not arrested because they are illegal that’s a gop bedtime story they tell their base

anyway, back to your other post, if you could tell
me why a federal worker fuoughed bynthe trump shutdown is hurt worse than a federal worker hurt by the obama
shut down, i’d appreciate it.

we have had shutdowns as I said it’s the BS reason for the shut down

People have always collateral damage during shut downs
Unless I’ve missed something this is the 1st time they’ve been hostages... Trump didn’t even mention them in his 8 mins

Now we hurt Some Americans to help some Americans don’t get it

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Hope this answers some questions
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Unless I’ve missed something this is the 1st time they’ve been hostages...
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They have been for every shutdown, the whole reason they happen is because two sides can't come to an agreement.

2013 was over the raising of the Debt Ceiling and the defunding of Obamacare.