Trump to meet with Putin

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by JohnR

PS - calling this Treason and Impeachable and a modern day Pearl Harbor or 9/11 with a dash of Handmaiden's Tale is no different than many on the right calling for O to be impeached. A high bar must be met and it has not been.

If the IC or Mueller determines that Trump IS under Putin's thumb - AND CAN PROVE IT - than we have something we need to follow.

I've stated before I do not like how T gets all meek around VVP and this is one of my biggest concerns.

It is a betrayal of the country. It gives aid and comfort to an enemy. It puts a foreign entity above the country. True, it is not to an enforceable standard. 9/11 was an outside entity attacking us and the country was united against it. This is the most powerful person in the world, with support of 30-40 percent of the country, aligning with a modern dictator over crimes against our democracy. It will be a full chapter in the history books in twenty years.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Doesn't meet the standard for Treason but he certainly could pass the bar for impeachment. Indictments have been handed out and Trump is impeding prosecution of the law against his oath to defend the Constution. Clinton was impeached for far, far less.

No

Originally Posted by zimmy

It is a betrayal of the country. It gives aid and comfort to an enemy. It puts a foreign entity above the country. True, it is not to an enforceable standard. 9/11 was an outside entity attacking us and the country was united against it. This is the most powerful person in the world, with support of 30-40 percent of the country, aligning with a modern dictator over crimes against our democracy. It will be a full chapter in the history books in twenty years.
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And, no.


Actually you are correct, the people that write the history books
tend to be pretty left leaning.

We need real, irrefutable evidence of RUS smothering DJT. The bar must be high

[JohnR]

PS

Most things you see now be VERY suspicious of - NOW is the time that both sides will be hammered by RUS meme engines and bots.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

PS

Most things you see now be VERY suspicious of - NOW is the time that both sides will be hammered by RUS meme engines and bots.

Do you think Mueller's team is being hypnotized by memes?

What's known already is pretty damning. Two credible threads of collusion (one proven) and it's looking like three separate lines of meddling with the social media campaign, DNC hack and now the NRA money scheme.

It's like the house is burning down and some are wondering if they smell smoke.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Pretty sure it is coming. Once we get the dirt from Flynn and Cohen, it will be crystal clear.
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Dunno - we'll see. Need something concrete.

Originally Posted by spence

Do you think Mueller's team is being hypnotized by memes?

What's known already is pretty damning. Two credible threads of collusion (one proven) and it's looking like three separate lines of meddling with the social media campaign, DNC hack and now the NRA money scheme.

It's like the house is burning down and some are wondering if they smell smoke.

Not at all. I want to see US IC chasing the foreign guys stirring the pot.

Two credible threads? Name one. RUS influence measures during the campaign is not something Mueller can crush Trump on. It is a big problem but you need proof Trump did it - brought RUS in or used RUS intel systems - irrefutable proof.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Two credible threads? Name one. RUS influence measures during the campaign is not something Mueller can crush Trump on. It is a big problem but you need proof Trump did it - irrefutable proof.

If you pin it on the campaign it's going to be nearly as damaging to Trump even if you don't have evidence he directed it. Might not result in instant impeachment but it's going to hurt bad. I can't believe he wasn't in the loop, not for a second.

Hell, Don Jr already admitted to collusion even if it wasn't successful. The new indictments draw an evidenced connection from the DNC hack to someone in frequent contact with sr campaign members. The circle is getting tighter...

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No




And, no.


Actually you are correct, the people that write the history books
tend to be pretty left leaning.

We need real, irrefutable evidence of RUS smothering DJT. The bar must be high

Pretty sure it is coming. Once we get the dirt from Flynn and Cohen, it will be crystal clear.
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