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Old 06-16-2018, 05:22 PM   #1
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How about we talk about the 2000 children sepearated from their parents at the border in the past few months? I’m sure Jim can tell us what the good book would say.
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:59 PM   #2
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How about we talk about the 2000 children sepearated from their parents at the border in the past few months? I’m sure Jim can tell us what the good book would say.
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In all seriousness, why are the kids getting separated? Are the parents also not breaking the law?

I don't like it, but I have zero problem kicking out people who aren't supposed to be here, and I notice that you din't cry about Obama's deportations, of which there were many.
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In all seriousness, why are the kids getting separated?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ids-at-border/
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:38 AM   #4
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Ahh. So in spenceworld, murderers who have little kids, should not have to go to prison, because its bad to separate kids from parents.

I don’t like the separation, and 100% of the blame lies with the parents.
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Ahh. So in spenceworld, murderers who have little kids, should not have to go to prison, because its bad to separate kids from parents.

I don’t like the separation, and 100% of the blame lies with the parents.
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Trump says it’s the Democrats fault
This administration has made the choice to charge all people who cross the border criminally rather than civilly.
This is America and we incarcerate a higher percentage of people than anybody else by far.
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....are you saying those incarcerated didn't earn it?
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Sad for the children no doubt and the blame clearly is with the parents and the Mexican government. People fleeing abusive husbands, fear of death from gang violence and maybe a desire for the American dream; where is the support for those people in their own government? That is the real story hear, there wouldn't be a flood of people coming across if their own government and society was a decent environment to raise their own children and enjoy a safe productive life. There are people in the US with the same fears and they are making a run with children in tow to the Mexican border. Unfortunately the children are pawns in a very bad game of chess and nobody comes out the winner in this one.
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Ahh. So in spenceworld, murderers who have little kids, should not have to go to prison, because its bad to separate kids from parents.
Has said no one ever.

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You bet I did. I get why people want what’s best for their
Kids. But not everyone who might want to come here, can come. There are limits.
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Under federal law, it is a crime for anyone to enter into the US without the approval of an immigration officer -- it's a misdemeanor offense But again comparing Inmates and separating them from their children is just another False equivalence the right love to use to justify an action


they even brought the bible in to the argument

I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13 to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” said Sessions

Saw this comment on line

I wish the pro-life community would get as upset with ripping a child from his mother's arms as the community does over ripping a child from his mother's womb. The illegal act should not be met with the evil act of separating a child from his parents

If this is supposed to be a deterrent, perhaps the government should just kill the kids. After all, if taking children from parents is a deterrent, surely killing the children will be even more of a deterrent. At this point we're just arguing about degrees of evil and monstrous acts.
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In all seriousness, why are the kids getting separated? Are the parents also not breaking the law?

I don't like it, but I have zero problem kicking out people who aren't supposed to be here, and I notice that you din't cry about Obama's deportations, of which there were many.
The spike in separations is largely an attempt to gain leverage over democrats...

As for Obama, he was aggressively prioritizing criminals...nothing wrong with that.
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[QUOTE=spence;1144701]How about we talk about the 2000 children sepearated from their parents at the border in the past few months?

When American citizens are placed in detention, they are separated from their children. Should their children stay with them while they are in prison or being held for trial?

It might be a strong deterrent for you if you know that you will be separated from your children if you illegally cross the border.

I'm sure the children are well taken care of.


I’m sure Jim can tell us what the good book would say.
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The Good Book says in the Tenth Commandment "Let not your desire be turned to your neighbor's house . . . or anything which is his."
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It might be a strong deterrent for you if you know that you will be separated from your children if you illegally cross the border.

I'm sure the children are well taken care of.
Yea, blame the women trying to seek asylum because the alternative is gang rape and murder.

As for the kids, many are just toddlers. There’s no scenario where taking them from a parent can be considered being well taken care of unless there’s danger to the child.
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