Gun-Trained Teacher Accidentally Shoots Gun In Calif. High School Classroom

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

The term is called “accessory to murder”
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

Both of these are after the fact, then laws are broken, arrests made, and charges filed.

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

Originally Posted by Nebe

The term is called “accessory to murder”
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The question is how do you enforce the requirement of someone having to lock up their weapons. Other than random spot-checks by the police (which will never happen), there really isn't a way.

If you want to fix the issue, find a way to fix stupidity and lack of common sense.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The question is how do you enforce the requirement of someone having to lock up their weapons. Other than random spot-checks by the police (which will never happen), there really isn't a way.

If you want to fix the issue, find a way to fix stupidity and lack of common sense.

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable. Plenty of options to protect weapons yet keep them available for home defense if needed.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable.

you'd think they'd comply because they don't want their kids shooting each other...liability?...good grief

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable. Plenty of options to protect weapons yet keep them available for home defense if needed.

The question wasn't if it was a sound solution, I don't think anybody here is going to argue that it is smart to lock up guns when there are children around, the question was how do you enforce it?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The question wasn't if it was a sound solution, I don't think anybody here is going to argue that it is smart to lock up guns when there are children around, the question was how do you enforce it?

How do you enforce a requirement in a state that doesn't have any requirements to own a gun to start with ...

but Mississippi passes strictest abortion law! its madness

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

How do you enforce a requirement in a state that doesn't have any requirements to own a gun to start with ...

but Mississippi passes strictest abortion law! its madness

Then it's not a requirement, is it?

Again, how do you enforce that requirement in a state that actually HAS that requirement?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage.totally agreeKind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it "might"? deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

that assumes that people who are dumb enough to leave loaded hand guns laying around where little children can access them are going to going to care that there is a law requiring a safe storage solution....

wait...I thought the death penalty is not a deterrent "A 2009 survey of criminologists revealed that over 88% believed the death penalty was NOT a deterrent to murder."

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

that assumes that people who are dumb enough to leave loaded hand guns laying around where little children can access them are going to going to care that there is a law requiring a safe storage solution....

wait...I thought the death penalty is not a deterrent "A 2009 survey of criminologists revealed that over 88% believed the death penalty was NOT a deterrent to murder."

Right, that is why I said "supposed to be a deterrent..." Even if it doesn't deter negligent behavior, the owner probably should be held responsible.