Gun-Trained Teacher Accidentally Shoots Gun In Calif. High School Classroom

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

BTW Wayne, I'm all for requiring a safe storage solution (gun safe for example).

It is required in some place and just makes sense.

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

The term is called “accessory to murder”
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

Both of these are after the fact, then laws are broken, arrests made, and charges filed.

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage. Kind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it might deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

Originally Posted by Nebe

The term is called “accessory to murder”
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The question is how do you enforce the requirement of someone having to lock up their weapons. Other than random spot-checks by the police (which will never happen), there really isn't a way.

If you want to fix the issue, find a way to fix stupidity and lack of common sense.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The question is how do you enforce the requirement of someone having to lock up their weapons. Other than random spot-checks by the police (which will never happen), there really isn't a way.

If you want to fix the issue, find a way to fix stupidity and lack of common sense.

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable. Plenty of options to protect weapons yet keep them available for home defense if needed.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable.

you'd think they'd comply because they don't want their kids shooting each other...liability?...good grief

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

No solution is 100% but if it's the law more people will comply simply because they don't want to be held liable. Plenty of options to protect weapons yet keep them available for home defense if needed.

The question wasn't if it was a sound solution, I don't think anybody here is going to argue that it is smart to lock up guns when there are children around, the question was how do you enforce it?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The question wasn't if it was a sound solution, I don't think anybody here is going to argue that it is smart to lock up guns when there are children around, the question was how do you enforce it?

How do you enforce a requirement in a state that doesn't have any requirements to own a gun to start with ...

but Mississippi passes strictest abortion law! its madness

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

When a nine year old walks in the bedroom and grabs a handgun and shoots his 13 year old sister in the back of the head you arrest the owner for improper storage.totally agreeKind of like the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to murder, it "might"? deter a person from leaving the handgun where a child can access it.

that assumes that people who are dumb enough to leave loaded hand guns laying around where little children can access them are going to going to care that there is a law requiring a safe storage solution....

wait...I thought the death penalty is not a deterrent "A 2009 survey of criminologists revealed that over 88% believed the death penalty was NOT a deterrent to murder."

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

that assumes that people who are dumb enough to leave loaded hand guns laying around where little children can access them are going to going to care that there is a law requiring a safe storage solution....

wait...I thought the death penalty is not a deterrent "A 2009 survey of criminologists revealed that over 88% believed the death penalty was NOT a deterrent to murder."

Right, that is why I said "supposed to be a deterrent..." Even if it doesn't deter negligent behavior, the owner probably should be held responsible.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by scottw

it does make sense...how do you enforce this?

It is only enforceable in the event something happens and then becomes an add on charge like so many other gun laws.
But at least there is a known rule about it and not just relying on common sense since we know that sure is lacking today.

It's pretty sad that in this state it seems like law abiding gun owners have to be paranoid about accidentally having one piece of empty .22 brass shell laying in a crevice somewhere and being in violation of ammo storage laws.

That is a very sad story of those kids, something is terribly wrong today when these things happen, if he used a hammer it would have been just as terrible. Long ago a kid did something similar to a sibling with a hammer after seeing Curly on the Three Stooges getting hit on the head by Moe, you can't think that video games have zero part in this thought process of a child of 9 years old. So the Sheriff is right to question all the facts. I don't see where he said let's blame video games. Just the same as the anti's blaming the NRA and lawful gun owners after a school shooting.