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Old 07-08-2016, 10:42 AM   #1
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Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.
"Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate"

Thanks! I don't hate liberals as a rule (some exceptions), but I really am starting to hate liberalism.

"Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy"

We agree 100%.

I have a crucial question for you, I hope you will take a swing at answering it directly?

If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).

Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them. He didn't mention a syllable about the need to raise their kids responsibly and lovingly, he didn't say anything about working hard in school to break the cycle of poverty.

Why is that?

Answer - it doesn't serve his agenda, and that is more important to Obama, than actually helping these people.

Al Sharpton has visited Obama dozens of times. That tells you everything you need to know about where Obama stands on this issue. Any responsible person knows that Sharpton is a lethally dangerous fool.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:03 PM   #2
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If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).
Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:28 PM   #4
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Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.

The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.

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It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.
Sorry you feel we aren't a great nation anymore.

So would you support the increased spending on programs that help minorities more than whites (things like pre school programs, etc)?

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Old 07-08-2016, 12:41 PM   #6
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Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
I am sorry to say you dodged my question completely.

I never said that legitimate police abuse should not be addressed. What I said, is that's what liberals obsess over (even though we both admitted that's a minor cause of black tragedy), and liberals almost never talk about what causes a huge majority of black tragedies (black on black violence, caused by a complete breakdown of family values).

We both know that you could not answer my question without admitting that your side is ignoring a genuine epidemic, in order to fabricate another epidemic, one which better serves the liberal agenda.

True cop racism is nowhere near the issue for the black community, compared to the cultural genocide that's taking place in urban areas. Yet cop racism is what gets 95% of liberals attention. As we saw last night, that has catastrophic effects.

And then here comes Obama, who naturally isn't going to concede that his hate speech had anything to do with it. Instead, he calls for gun control.

Amazing! Yesterday, Obama told America that cops are executing our citizens. Today, he is saying that we'd all be safer if only cops had guns.

He's a flip-flopping, racist moron. And he feels at least as much hate as you accuse me of, yet I never see you lament that. No one who feels that Al Sharpton can have a productive influence on race relations, is to be taken seriously.
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Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.
"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...
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"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...
You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President.
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Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:22 PM   #10
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Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.
"go look at your 2nd post".

All righty, here it is.

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

You see something hateful, or even wrong, in there Paul? Maybe you should read that 2nd post, because it has that question I asked (why do liberals obsess over a rare problem and ignore the real issue), yet you won't answer. I wonder why that is??

"Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics"

My wife is well aware. And it's not that I disagree with Hilary's politics. It's that she is a morally bankrupt, pathological liar, and a repugnant human being. I can say the same thing about Trump. He's a complete a-hole. It's not about politics. I am in favor of gay marriage and gun control, I call out good and bad on both sides.

"Your hate is unparalled on this forum"

I disagree. And as we have all seen, my opinions aren't so flimsy, that I am ever unable to answer any question you ask. Can you say the same? Nope. You dodged repeatedly here. A simple question, and it had you on the ropes.

Two questions actually...
(1) what makes you say conservatives have no sympathy for minorities?
(2) if, as you say, true police brutality is a small contributor to black struggles, why do liberals spend so much more time obsessing over it, than they do trying to solve the problems that are major contributors to black struggles.

Here's a tip. If your opinions are so flimsy that you can't begin to answer such simple, pertinent questions...maybe you should re-think you opinions.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:14 PM   #11
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You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President.
Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.
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Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.
I said you're right - that I have a lot of hate. I'm always on this forum calling woman the C word bc I don't like her politics, that I think a whole political party is evil, etc, etc, etc. - I could go on and on and on and on.

sarcasm.

The policies of the Repub. disportionally hurt minorities. I hear it constantly.
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The policies of the Repub. disportionally hurt minorities. I hear it constantly.
Name one policy, please.

Because I can be very specific about liberal policies that have been devastating to minorities (abortion, welfare, even some say affirmative action causes serious damage).

"I hear it constantly"

Well, if Rachael Maddow and Arianna Huffington say it, and you hear it, that's good enough for me!

I wonder why statistical studies show that conservatives give a little more to charity, than liberals do, if they are so lacking in empathy?
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"black lives matter" ....some (a lot) of its followers/supporters are celebrating and calling for more cop killings...totally disgusting.

Ferguson affect is taking hold and making a difficult job more dangerous than ever, cops can't even make an arrest in a lot of places without a crowd taunting them. Places like Chicago, the police have taken a step back, gangs rule the streets with multiple murders every day of the week no outrage from blm or potus.

Thank a policeman today for keeping us safe from what would be absolute chaos without them.
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Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them.

Source ? Is this a direct quote or your interpretation of something that was said
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