white cops vs black criminals

[PaulS]

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate. Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy. However, there should be no descrepancy. Some cops are racist (just as some of any job are racist) and that racism needs to be stopped. They prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

"Actually that post doesn't exhibit what I believe is your liberal hate"

Thanks! I don't hate liberals as a rule (some exceptions), but I really am starting to hate liberalism.

"Of course cop racism is not the reason for the all of the discrepancies - I just believe it is a snmall part of the discrepancy"

We agree 100%.

I have a crucial question for you, I hope you will take a swing at answering it directly?

If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).

Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them. He didn't mention a syllable about the need to raise their kids responsibly and lovingly, he didn't say anything about working hard in school to break the cycle of poverty.

Why is that?

Answer - it doesn't serve his agenda, and that is more important to Obama, than actually helping these people.

Al Sharpton has visited Obama dozens of times. That tells you everything you need to know about where Obama stands on this issue. Any responsible person knows that Sharpton is a lethally dangerous fool.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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If cop racism is, as you say, a small contributor to the problem, why do liberals (Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) spend so much time and energy talking about it? I follow these things more closely than most. It is FAR more common for liberals to talk about the white cop boogeyman, than it is for liberals to address the larger contributors to the problem (which obviously is the gangster and fatherless culture that blacks are embracing).

Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

[JohnR]

Just keep this civil please.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

100% wrong about that Paul, that is your perception

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy and I am conservative because I choose to live within my means, support those who cannot support themselves, follow the constitution, not trample on it and obey the laws of our once great nation.

Sorry you feel we aren't a great nation anymore.

So would you support the increased spending on programs that help minorities more than whites (things like pre school programs, etc)?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Cops are the people in society that we have charged to protect and serve ALL citizens in the US. If some citizens don't think they are being treated fairly, they have a right to protest peacefully. Every stat shows minorities (blacks) get treated worse by the criminal justice system. I'm sure if Jackson didn't talk about it, some conservative politician (Trump?) would do it instead - right?

THose are 2 different issues totally (and I laugh when conservatives always bring up the murder the rate in Chicago when Blacks protest police shootings). Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

I am sorry to say you dodged my question completely.

I never said that legitimate police abuse should not be addressed. What I said, is that's what liberals obsess over (even though we both admitted that's a minor cause of black tragedy), and liberals almost never talk about what causes a huge majority of black tragedies (black on black violence, caused by a complete breakdown of family values).

We both know that you could not answer my question without admitting that your side is ignoring a genuine epidemic, in order to fabricate another epidemic, one which better serves the liberal agenda.

True cop racism is nowhere near the issue for the black community, compared to the cultural genocide that's taking place in urban areas. Yet cop racism is what gets 95% of liberals attention. As we saw last night, that has catastrophic effects.

And then here comes Obama, who naturally isn't going to concede that his hate speech had anything to do with it. Instead, he calls for gun control.

Amazing! Yesterday, Obama told America that cops are executing our citizens. Today, he is saying that we'd all be safer if only cops had guns.

He's a flip-flopping, racist moron. And he feels at least as much hate as you accuse me of, yet I never see you lament that. No one who feels that Al Sharpton can have a productive influence on race relations, is to be taken seriously.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities and that it why it is going to be harder and harder for a R to get elected president.

"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Face it cons. have no empathy and no sympathy for minorities"

Paul, where does your hate come from? How does it feel to have so much hate? See what I did there?

It's also pure horesh*t. Please tell us, what do you base that on? I'd just love to see your facts that back that up.

It will make it harder to get elected POTUS. It's based on nonsense. But it's effective (clearly, it even fooled you), so liberals keep making that claim. They never seem to provide the logic to back it up, I notice...

You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President.

[PaulS]

Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go look at your 2nd post.

My Hate Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics, the Pres. a POS, and even have the thought that "Liberalism is evil"

Your hate is unparalled on this forum.

"go look at your 2nd post".

All righty, here it is.

What % of black murder victims are killed by white cops, and what % are killed by other young black men? I don't like the idea of racist cops, but why do the 1%of the cases where the killer is a white cop, get 99% of our attention and energy I don't hear Obama talking about the carnage being experienced every weekend in his hometown of Chicago, but sure as hell, there he is tonight, lamenting white cops.

You see something hateful, or even wrong, in there Paul? Maybe you should read that 2nd post, because it has that question I asked (why do liberals obsess over a rare problem and ignore the real issue), yet you won't answer. I wonder why that is??

"Go tell some woman who is important in your life that you call a woman the C word bc you don't like her politics"

My wife is well aware. And it's not that I disagree with Hilary's politics. It's that she is a morally bankrupt, pathological liar, and a repugnant human being. I can say the same thing about Trump. He's a complete a-hole. It's not about politics. I am in favor of gay marriage and gun control, I call out good and bad on both sides.

"Your hate is unparalled on this forum"

I disagree. And as we have all seen, my opinions aren't so flimsy, that I am ever unable to answer any question you ask. Can you say the same? Nope. You dodged repeatedly here. A simple question, and it had you on the ropes.

Two questions actually...
(1) what makes you say conservatives have no sympathy for minorities?
(2) if, as you say, true police brutality is a small contributor to black struggles, why do liberals spend so much more time obsessing over it, than they do trying to solve the problems that are major contributors to black struggles.

Here's a tip. If your opinions are so flimsy that you can't begin to answer such simple, pertinent questions...maybe you should re-think you opinions.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're right. I'm sure the Rs will soon have then next President.

Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Again, you keep responding to things I didn't say (are you feeling OK?). I said that the GOP is going to struggle in presidential elections. No one would deny that.

Now, can you please support that statement of yours, that conservatives have no sympathy for blacks? I am very, very interested.

I said you're right - that I have a lot of hate. I'm always on this forum calling woman the C word bc I don't like her politics, that I think a whole political party is evil, etc, etc, etc. - I could go on and on and on and on.

sarcasm.

The policies of the Repub. disportionally hurt minorities. I hear it constantly.

[Rmarsh]

"black lives matter" ....some (a lot) of its followers/supporters are celebrating and calling for more cop killings...totally disgusting.

Ferguson affect is taking hold and making a difficult job more dangerous than ever, cops can't even make an arrest in a lot of places without a crowd taunting them. Places like Chicago, the police have taken a step back, gangs rule the streets with multiple murders every day of the week no outrage from blm or potus.

Thank a policeman today for keeping us safe from what would be absolute chaos without them.

[wdmso]

Yesterday, Obama told blacks that white cops are out to get them.

Source ? Is this a direct quote or your interpretation of something that was said

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

They (white cops) prob. approach a black suspect in a manor that leads to these type of incidents.

Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.

If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Baseless nonsense. I saw the video of the guy in Baton Rouge, he fought the cops every step of the way. They gave him verbal commands, he fought. They tasered him, he fought. They tried to wrestle him, he fought.

If, at any time, that idiot simply complied, no sane person thinks he'd still be dead. And if the cops were out to hunt a black man, why did they give him so many chances to surrender peaceably?

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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I'm not defending it. Where did I defend that? I also don't think we know yet, that he was shot for no reason, any more than we knew that the cop in Ferguson was guilty, or any more than we knew that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty.

Obama's Justice Dept will investigate. Let's calm down until we know what happened.

I will plead guilty to this, I give the cops the benefit of the doubt. I can be convinced otherwise, but just because the cop is white and the deceased is black, that's not evidence of racism. But it's enough for the shameless race baiters like Sharpton and Obama.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Nebe

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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Maybe after more facts come out it can be defended rather than just based on an 'after the event' witness video. Why was the officer dealing with the passenger, was he done with the driver? Seems as though you have already convicted the Asian cop as a racist murderer.
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[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by Nebe

How about the guy who was just shot in the car ? How can you defend that ?
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What got me wondering was this:

If your boyfriend/girlfriend is driving the car, and you get shot by a cop / thug, wouldn't you think they'd be just a little more emotional about you being shot? Wouldn't you think that taking a selfie-video explaining what happened like you were explaining how to open a door is a little weird? Even the "kid" in the back seat wasn't making any noise (based on the video the girlfriend posted to Facebook) AS IT HAPPENED!

The guy told the police he had a weapon, and was reaching behind him (for his wallet?). Now exactly how many police would have to be shot/killed by someone making the same motions before they can react accordingly?
Sad to say, but he may have caused his own death by virtue of moving at the wrong time. Is the cop at fault? Maybe so if his commands were unclear.

Here's another thing...she was driving, so because the police stop was due to a busted tail light, she would be the one to need the license and registration. Now in the course of the traffic stop a passenger ADMITS to having a gun, and then starts digging/reaching for something behind him or in his pockets, what are the police supposed to do or better yet what should they think?

Unfortunately the police have become a target for thugs, druggies, pushers and any number of worthless low-life scum.
Add to that willingly editing and misrepresenting the facts by the media and ALL politicians and the posting of cell videos by so-called "concerned citizens" and the police have to be so politically correct that they can't do their job as intended.
They have to be careful not to offend anyone or risk public scorn because some scumbag's friend took a video of their arrest/shooting that didn't show what started the event but ONLY the outcome. Sure, cop-cameras would solve a lot of these problems but I doubt the public would believe a cop-camera video over the victims friend.



Hey, what about the black man that was shot by an off-duty white cop in Brooklyn? He got out of his car, ran up to the cop's car and began pummeling him through the driver's window. Repeated haymakers to the head and face before the cop shot him twice.
Once in the head, once in the chest.

This thugs girlfriend told police that the cop got out of his car and approached her "good-guy" boyfriend before shooting him dead.

A local business owner has provided video proof to the contrary, proving the thug attacked the cop and paid the price for it.

Notice the media and the political wh*res aren't harping about that one?