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				The way things are going  with Obama, there will be nothing left for Trump or anyone else to tear down or build up.  
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 I love it "a shell of a great country."
 
This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best. These Republican candidates running around in a fabricated malaise moaning about how awful and terrible everything is really look pretty foolish.
 
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			01-10-2016, 12:27 PM
			
			
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				I love it "a shell of a great country." 
 
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			01-10-2016, 12:51 PM
			
			
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				Fixed it for you. 
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 Seriously, watching these Republicans on the stump I'm wondering if the entire show was scripted by Dante himself.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2016, 01:00 PM
			
			
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		as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted    
		
		
		
		
		
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				as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted    
			
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 You've been saying that for some time.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2016, 01:36 PM
			
			
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				as distasteful as you apparently find the Republican candidates, only one candidate is about to be indicted    
			
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 Fine by me.  I can't stand her
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			01-10-2016, 01:38 PM
			
			
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				Fine by me.  I can't stand her 
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 yes, it would be great news for the Sanders brigade    
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2016, 01:50 PM
			
			
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 Should be indicted.....she won't be.......but she should be.
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			01-10-2016, 04:52 PM
			
			
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				Should be indicted.....she won't be.......but she should be. 
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				For what? 
			
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 If I pulled the same stunt as her with the E-mail server, all of my correspondence would be through my lawyer right now.
 
Laziness and Convenience does not make for good security.....
 
...and I've grown tired of arguing what she did wrong with people that don't get it....or just don't want to...  
		
		
		
		
		
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				I love it "a shell of a great country." 
 
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 Spence you should really awake from your nap now, 7and 1/2 years 
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			01-10-2016, 04:43 PM
			
			
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				Spence you should really awake from your nap now, 7and 1/2 years 
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 Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh...  
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh... 
			
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 Why do we need to fundamentally transform what is great?  Is it not great enough?  Not even in some basic sense?  FUDAMENTALLY  TRANSFORM?  I guess greatness is in the eyes of the beholder.  Maybe Obama and justplugit agree about something.
 
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				Why do we need to fundamentally transform what is great?  Is it not great enough?  Not even in some basic sense?  FUDAMENTALLY  TRANSFORM?  I guess greatness is in the eyes of the beholder.  Maybe Obama and justplugit agree about something. 
 
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 Clearly it's not great or it wouldn't need to be transformed.
 
I had no idea my Country sucked so bad. This is going to take some time to process...  
		
		
		
		
		
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				Clearly it's not great or it wouldn't need to be transformed. 
 
Tell that to Obama. 
 
I had no idea my Country sucked so bad.  
 
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			01-10-2016, 06:30 PM
			
			
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				Well, I guess I've never experienced greatness then. How far back are we talking here? And to think all this time I thought my Country was great...sigh... 
			
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		 [QUOTE=spence;1090720]I love it "a shell of a great country." 
 
This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best. These Republican candidates running around in a fabricated malaise moaning about how awful and terrible everything is really look pretty foolish. 
 
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I take it you don't have a problem with Obama apologizing to the world about America then. In his eyes were not the best and need fundamental change.   
 You also apparently have no problem with him saying America is the only country that has mass shootings , which is a complete lie   
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You're gay statement offends me 
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			01-10-2016, 04:46 PM
			
			
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				I take it you don't have a problem with Obama apologizing to the world about America then. In his eyes were not the best and need fundamental change.   
 You also apparently have no problem with him saying America is the only country that has mass shootings , which is a complete lie   
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 Here's the thing, his outreach to the Muslim world didn't tell them anything they didn't already know. I think it was a bit of a surprise to many Americans though.
 
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				The mass shootings remark wasn't a lie. The context was that developed nations don't incur nearly what we do...and that's a fact. 
			
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This is likely why the GOP would lose this election. People know that this country is indeed still pretty great, in fact, it's the best. 
			
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 More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves.  
		
		
		
		
		
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				More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves. 
			
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  I love it that you guys think Moochers who are on welfare and to lazy to find a Job actually  take the time to find a poling station and  Vote !! 
 
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				I love it that you guys think Moochers who are on welfare and to lazy to find a Job actually  take the time to find a poling station and  Vote !!  
 
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 They have the time and the incentive .  Are you saying they are just too stupid to vote  ?
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				They have the time and the incentive .  Are you saying they are just too stupid to vote  ? 
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				More likely the GOP would lose because there are more Moochers, thanks for reminding me of the description, detbuch,than those who are ambitious , like to work, be independent, and support themselves. 
			
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 There are exponentially many more moochers in poverty that the very wealthy.  And the wealthy pay most of the taxes from which everybody mooches.  Even the very wealthy have a means to actually generate income than those in poverty.
 
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				There are exponentially many more moochers in poverty that the very wealthy.  And the wealthy pay most of the taxes from which everybody mooches.  Even the very wealthy have a means to actually generate income than those in poverty. 
 
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