Executive Order background checks

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Suicides by guns are more prevalent where guns are......because it's convenient.

If someone wants to commit suicide they will do it.
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Studies have shown that if the person fails in the attempt or is prevented from killing themselves, they are not that likely to try again. With a gun they are more likely to succeed in their attempt.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Studies have shown that if the person fails in the attempt or is prevented from killing themselves, they are not that likely to try again. With a gun they are more likely to succeed in their attempt.
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The link I posted earlier on Australia found that with fewer guns not only did the suicide rate by firearm go way down but the rate of suicide fell also. I'd wager for exactly the same reason.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The link I posted earlier on Australia found that with fewer guns not only did the suicide rate by firearm go way down but the rate of suicide fell also. I'd wager for exactly the same reason.

We should spend the money on the veterans that are killing themselves if that's his concern
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

We should spend the money on the veterans that are killing themselves if that's his concern
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I agree it's a worthy cause but that would require Republicans to stop thwarting VA funding.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I agree it's a worthy cause but that would require Republicans to stop thwarting VA funding.

Seems to of found the money for this useless Executive Order
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Seems to of found the money for this useless Executive Order
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I'm sure that's going to be another fight the Speaker caves on.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm sure that's going to be another fight the Speaker caves on.
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True
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Studies have shown that if the person fails in the attempt or is prevented from killing themselves, they are not that likely to try again. With a gun they are more likely to succeed in their attempt.
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Did you ever think that is because now people know they need counseling now, where before it came out of nowhere.

People who fail or are prevented probably also didn't want to succeed.....they were looking for help.

If somebody truly wants to die.....they will.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Did you ever think that is because now people know they need counseling now, where before it came out of nowhere.

People who fail or are prevented probably also didn't want to succeed.....they were looking for help.

If somebody truly wants to die.....they will.
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I think it goes back to people making a quick decision (say you unexpectedly get fired and think your life is over). Once you have not succeeded you'll probably get some help. With a gun there are probably few 2nd chances.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I think it goes back to people making a quick decision (say you unexpectedly get fired and think your life is over). Once you have not succeeded you'll probably get some help. With a gun there are probably few 2nd chances.
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and sometimes when you fail you're #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up for the rest of your life....

http://frater.com/suicidelist.html

and not a lot of wiggle room on some of these methods either....

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-metho...lethal-methods

9 out of 10 times when you try hanging yourself you succeed....and the other 1 probably doesn't re-try it again because they can only eat soup through a straw due to the irreparable brain damage they suffered...

[Slipknot]

watch this and learn the truth

https://www.nranews.com/series/wayne...kground-checks