So, how about our brilliant middle eastern vetting process

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Psssst. Bernie is pro gun.
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did not mention or ask if bernie was pro gun....only mentioned your current president about guns....

[Fly Rod]

Under obama's watch in 2012 a secret policy that barred federal agents from looking at social media post for visa applicants...this policy still stands today....they bar agents but employers R allowed to check U out on social media when applying for a job....durrrr.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ial-media.html

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Under obama's watch in 2012 a secret policy that barred federal agents from looking at social media post for visa applicants...this policy still stands today....they bar agents but employers R allowed to check U out on social media when applying for a job....durrrr.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ial-media.html

This appears to be another story being blown out of proportion.

When an employer checks you out on social media all they can do is potentially view public posts like this one. The killers from California apparently did not make any public remarks on social media about jihad or martyrdom, so there's no way the VISA background checks would have caught it anyway.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

This appears to be another story being blown out of proportion.

When an employer checks you out on social media all they can do is potentially view public posts like this one. The killers from California apparently did not make any public remarks on social media about jihad or martyrdom, so there's no way the VISA background checks would have caught it anyway.

but the moron isis guy who posted a photo on FB in front of his headquarters sure did some good as in less than 48 hours the place was blown off the face of the earth. trouble is they announced it instead of keeping it quiet so they and the media would not tip off the enemy from more stupidity.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

but the moron isis guy who posted a photo on FB in front of his headquarters sure did some good as in less than 48 hours the place was blown off the face of the earth. trouble is they announced it instead of keeping it quiet so they and the media would not tip off the enemy from more stupidity.

Or the Russian soldier forgetting his selfies in Ukraine had location data

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Under obama's watch in 2012 a secret policy that barred federal agents from looking at social media post for visa applicants...this policy still stands today....they bar agents but employers R allowed to check U out on social media when applying for a job....durrrr.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ial-media.html

Teachers lose jobs , cops lose jobs
Politicians lose jobs all because of posts on social media . I bet if you go adopt a pet, you are vetted and checked out on social media .
I can't imagine why it would be OK to grab peoples phone records but not look at their Facebook .
But then again I still don't understand why you don't need an ID to vote .
This one baffles me too.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I can't imagine why it would be OK to grab peoples phone records but not look at their Facebook .

To grab someone's phone records requires a court order. I don't know if you've ever used Facebook but you'd have to hack into their account, get a warrant or friend them to see anything. That's why this is pretty silly.

How many VISA applicant wannabe jihadis do you think are on open forums like S-B using their real names?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

To grab someone's phone records requires a court order. I don't know if you've ever used Facebook but you'd have to hack into their account, get a warrant or friend them to see anything. That's why this is pretty silly.

How many VISA applicant wannabe jihadis do you think are on open forums like S-B using their real names?

Which is why it is not unreasonable to suggest a moratorium on immigration. We have had moratoriums (long ones) in the past. We are going to great difficulty to create a fallible process of importing a huge number of refugees into our already over populated economy and social network and safety net, all at the expense and danger to the rest of us. We are going through hoops and pinholes to fight a world wide PR war, and are half-heartedly going about the destruction of the cause for that war.

If it requires a reset of who we are, an Obama transformation, and we cannot defeat the enemy with all-out war, then better to become disentangled with the whole mess and let the rest of the world sort itself out.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Which is why it is not unreasonable to suggest a moratorium on immigration. We have had moratoriums (long ones) in the past. We are going to great difficulty to create a fallible process of importing a huge number of refugees into our already over populated economy and social network and safety net, all at the expense and danger to the rest of us. We are going through hoops and pinholes to fight a world wide PR war, and are half-heartedly going about the destruction of the cause for that war.

If it requires a reset of who we are, an Obama transformation, and we cannot defeat the enemy with all-out war, then better to become disentangled with the whole mess and let the rest of the world sort itself out.

I think we allow close to 100,000 refugees per year, so 10,000 isn't exactly a surge. Recently I read the US ranks #14 in amount of refugees taken, so it'a not exactly like we're shouldering the brunt of the load.

The process isn't being created, it already exists and it's not easy. Say 18 months + and I don't believe under international law you get to choose what country you're sent to.

I'm not sure what a moratorium would accomplish beyond just subjecting more people to terrorism.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I think we allow close to 100,000 refugees per year, so 10,000 isn't exactly a surge. Recently I read the US ranks #14 in amount of refugees taken, so it'a not exactly like we're shouldering the brunt of the load.

On top of the 100,000+ Syrians entered here since 2012?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/16...-100000-since/


The process isn't being created, it already exists and it's not easy. Say 18 months + and I don't believe under international law you get to choose what country you're sent to.

Are you forgetting one of your favorite causes for process snafu, the ever-present "systemic failure"? Benghazi, police depts., etc.

I'm not sure what a moratorium would accomplish beyond just subjecting more people to terrorism.

Wha . . .? I didn't know that they were being subjected to terrorism in the refugee camps.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

To grab someone's phone records requires a court order. I don't know if you've ever used Facebook but you'd have to hack into their account, get a warrant or friend them to see anything. That's why this is pretty silly.

How many VISA applicant wannabe jihadis do you think are on open forums like S-B using their real names?

If you think the only people that have access to your Facebook info are your "friends" , you are living in a fantasy world .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

If you think the only people that have access to your Facebook info are your "friends" , you are living in a fantasy world .
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Like who? Name names.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Like who? Name names.

I can't divulge that ...it's classified
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Like who? Name names.

Kevin Bacon....

You're within 6 degrees of him on facebook....