So, how about our brilliant middle eastern vetting process

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

To grab someone's phone records requires a court order. I don't know if you've ever used Facebook but you'd have to hack into their account, get a warrant or friend them to see anything. That's why this is pretty silly.

How many VISA applicant wannabe jihadis do you think are on open forums like S-B using their real names?

Which is why it is not unreasonable to suggest a moratorium on immigration. We have had moratoriums (long ones) in the past. We are going to great difficulty to create a fallible process of importing a huge number of refugees into our already over populated economy and social network and safety net, all at the expense and danger to the rest of us. We are going through hoops and pinholes to fight a world wide PR war, and are half-heartedly going about the destruction of the cause for that war.

If it requires a reset of who we are, an Obama transformation, and we cannot defeat the enemy with all-out war, then better to become disentangled with the whole mess and let the rest of the world sort itself out.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Which is why it is not unreasonable to suggest a moratorium on immigration. We have had moratoriums (long ones) in the past. We are going to great difficulty to create a fallible process of importing a huge number of refugees into our already over populated economy and social network and safety net, all at the expense and danger to the rest of us. We are going through hoops and pinholes to fight a world wide PR war, and are half-heartedly going about the destruction of the cause for that war.

If it requires a reset of who we are, an Obama transformation, and we cannot defeat the enemy with all-out war, then better to become disentangled with the whole mess and let the rest of the world sort itself out.

I think we allow close to 100,000 refugees per year, so 10,000 isn't exactly a surge. Recently I read the US ranks #14 in amount of refugees taken, so it'a not exactly like we're shouldering the brunt of the load.

The process isn't being created, it already exists and it's not easy. Say 18 months + and I don't believe under international law you get to choose what country you're sent to.

I'm not sure what a moratorium would accomplish beyond just subjecting more people to terrorism.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I think we allow close to 100,000 refugees per year, so 10,000 isn't exactly a surge. Recently I read the US ranks #14 in amount of refugees taken, so it'a not exactly like we're shouldering the brunt of the load.

On top of the 100,000+ Syrians entered here since 2012?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/16...-100000-since/


The process isn't being created, it already exists and it's not easy. Say 18 months + and I don't believe under international law you get to choose what country you're sent to.

Are you forgetting one of your favorite causes for process snafu, the ever-present "systemic failure"? Benghazi, police depts., etc.

I'm not sure what a moratorium would accomplish beyond just subjecting more people to terrorism.

Wha . . .? I didn't know that they were being subjected to terrorism in the refugee camps.