Carson may have lost me last night

[PaulS]

Carson made the following statement "Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

How is that different from everyone who was supporting that 4 time married, adultering county clerk who refused to issue marriage certs. bc she wanted to protect the sanctity of marriage?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Carson made the following statement "Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

How is that different from everyone who was supporting that 4 time married, adultering county clerk who refused to issue marriage certs. bc she wanted to protect the sanctity of marriage?

But in his statement before the one you quoted, he said that anyone of any faith could be POTUS, as long as they put the constitution ahead of their religious beliefs. What Carson is saying now, is that if you put the statements together, what he meant to say was that only a Muslim who couldn't put the constitution first, would be someone he couldn't support.

If Carson is implying that Muslims have a harder time seperating their religion from public policy than followers of other religions, well, he's obviously correct. I'm not saying every Muslim is a fanatic. But as a group, they tend to have a tough time putting religious beliefs aside when it comes to forming policy. and if you don't believe me, go over to France or Germany and report back on how well the Muslims there are assimillating.

The clerk you refer to, has a constitutionally guaranteed right to practice her religion. Obama is suing truck transportation companies to force them to accommodate Muslim truck drivers who don't want to transport alcohol. Referring to that suit, Obama says that employers MUST make religious accommodations for their employees. If you can tell me why Muslim truck drivers have that right but not Christian clerks (or Christian bakers, for that matter), you can have my house for free. Good luck with that.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But in his statement before the one you quoted, he said that anyone of any faith could be POTUS, as long as they put the constitution ahead of their religious beliefs. What Carson is saying now, is that if you put the statements together, what he meant to say was that only a Muslim who couldn't put the constitution first, would be someone he couldn't support.

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but that doesn't change what he said in the statement that I quoted and the example of the clerk. Essentially, they both are the same and what he is saying is that you have to leave your religious beliefs at the door and do your job Edit - I should have said that it sounds like he is saying if you are Muslim, you should leave your religious beliefs at the door..

I didn't follow the trucker issue but if the issue is basically the same (it may be??) then he (and I think the majority of the US public) should be criticizing anyone who supports the trucker, the clerk, etc.

I don't recall statements he made 1 way or the other about the clerk.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

but that doesn't change what he said in the statement that I quoted and the example of the clerk. Essentially, they both are the same and what he is saying is that you have to leave your religious beliefs at the door and do your job Edit - I should have said that it sounds like he is saying if you are Muslim, you should leave your religious beliefs at the door..

I didn't follow the trucker issue but if the issue is basically the same (it may be??) then he (and I think the majority of the US public) should be criticizing anyone who supports the trucker, the clerk, etc.

I don't recall statements he made 1 way or the other about the clerk.

Carson's concern about a Muslim president, is that said president might be willing to put his religious beliefs ahead of the Constitution. In other words, Carson wants to uphold the Constitution. That's not offensive, correct?

Which is exactly what supporters of the clerk (and the Christian baker) are doing. I am pro gay marriage, so I don't even agree with what the clerk, or Christian baker, believe. But I support the clerk and the baker purely on Constitutional grounds, because the constitution clearly guarantees them the right to do what they are doing. It is people who think the Christian baker should be fined, it is people who think the clerk should be fired, who are wiling to trample the constutution when it suits their personal agenda, which is EXACTLY what Carson is afraid would happen with a Muslim president. As liberals are more than willing to ignore the Constitution in support of liberalism, Carson will not support a Muslim president who would ignore the COnstutution in support of Islam.

I thnik you have this one wrong, Paul.

[scottw]

we've had the religion of progressivism, which is also incompatible with our Constitution, shoved down our throats for around a hundred years...like frogs in a pot on a stove