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11-07-2013, 04:40 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Is the problem that insurance companies are so drastically changing plans that it is forcing people to change p,ans and pay higher premiums?
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People are getting forced to take up preventative plans, instead of catastrophic plans.
Sorry for bringing facts to the party.
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11-07-2013, 07:38 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Originally Posted by likwid
People are getting forced to take up preventative plans, instead of catastrophic plans.
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Yes, forced and mislead would exactly be the right words when talking
about Obamacare.
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11-08-2013, 09:50 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Yes, forced and mislead would exactly be the right words when talking
about Obamacare.
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How were they mislead? The government only regulates (on a state level) insurance. Not govern.
The lady in Florida with the $54 plan turns out was being scammed by bcbs of Florida on the $591/most plan replacement. Her plan was garbage and basically covered nothing (those plans you're looking at for instance 10k out of pocket before they kick in, and I'd bet most who had plans like that leave the taxpayer with the bill).
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11-08-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
How were they mislead? The government only regulates (on a state level) insurance. Not govern.
The lady in Florida with the $54 plan turns out was being scammed by bcbs of Florida on the $591/most plan replacement. Her plan was garbage and basically covered nothing (those plans you're looking at for instance 10k out of pocket before they kick in, and I'd bet most who had plans like that leave the taxpayer with the bill).
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"How were they mislead?"
Really?...when Obama was selling Obamacare, he said (dozens of times on camera) that if you liked your current plan, you could keep it - period. Turns out that's not true for millions and millions of Americans. It was a major selling point of Obamacare that you could keep you current plan if you liked it.
What could be more misleading than that?
Worse, there are memos that the Administration has in its possession, which make it clear that they knew for a fact that not everyone would be able to keep their plans, but Obama continued to make that claim anyway.
That qualifies as misleading...Obama himself apologized on NBC yesterday, for the fact that his assurances did not bear out.
Last edited by Jim in CT; 11-08-2013 at 10:46 AM..
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11-08-2013, 10:56 AM
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There goes likwid again picking one out of a thousand. Obama did not even apologize, all he said was, "I'm sorry." This shows that he was insincere.
and I put that in sentences that U would like to C likwid
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11-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"How were they mislead?"
Really?...when Obama was selling Obamacare, he said (dozens of times on camera) that if you liked your current plan, you could keep it - period. Turns out that's not true for millions and millions of Americans. It was a major selling point of Obamacare that you could keep you current plan if you liked it.
What could be more misleading than that?
Worse, there are memos that the Administration has in its possession, which make it clear that they knew for a fact that not everyone would be able to keep their plans, but Obama continued to make that claim anyway.
That qualifies as misleading...Obama himself apologized on NBC yesterday, for the fact that his assurances did not bear out.
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Exactly, and in addition it turns out many will not be able to keep their Doc as promised. They will be forced to use another Doc as insurance companies drop their policies and Doc choice, and people are forced to use what is mandated by the Govt. Another freedom lost, especially hard on the elderly and those that are seriously ill who trust and are comfortable with their Doctor. Meantime,the same Govt. that makes the mandates for us has no consequences,as they have their own health care plan that is not affected.
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